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Zenkai Cell vs Gogeta
Topic Started: Mar 5 2014, 02:13 AM (1,181 Views)
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The fusion takes place as an alternative to the father-son kamehameha.

What do you think would happen?
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Goku was dead at this point of time, just Saiyan.

Anyways, he would stomp Cell pretty badly considering the Fusion boosts in the Buu Saga.
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The fusion should be above SSJ2 Gohan in base at least so they wreck Cell
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This video is an accurate description of this fight

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Either Goku/Vegeta Fusion will always be overkill as far as I'm concerned (though on a per-arc basis, of course).

Given that the gains for Goku and Vegeta were apparently not super-explosive between the Cell and Boo arcs (neither of them got a whopping 10x stronger or anything), I figure Super Gogeta would end up almost as strong as he was in the Boo era. Cell could throw blasts at him all day until his ki reserves ran out and barely singe Gogeta's hair in the process.
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Mar 5 2014, 03:18 AM
Either Goku/Vegeta Fusion will always be overkill as far as I'm concerned (though on a per-arc basis, of course).

Given that the gains for Goku and Vegeta were apparently not super-explosive between the Cell and Boo arcs (neither of them got a whopping 10x stronger or anything), I figure Super Gogeta would end up almost as strong as he was in the Boo era. Cell could throw blasts at him all day until his ki reserves ran out and barely singe Gogeta's hair in the process.
Next time, always assume base gogeta when I or someone else makes a fusion thread on the forum.

We know that SSJ fusions are most of the time, overkill.

Base fusions would make the start of the debate more interesting before elaborating on SSJ fusions.
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The events would run something like this:
- "Fu~ SION! HAA!"
- Blinding light
- Grinning Gogeta
- Cell gets off half a sentence before...
- *splat*
- 29+ mins of Gogeta wondering how he learnt to fuse...
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Base Gogeta with constipation, half a neck and a bad fever might be tickled by Cell. We're talking about a guy who would be significantly above the likes of Base Gotenks whom in turn was greatly implied to be above the likes of any SSJ2.
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Sir Brofist
Mar 5 2014, 01:44 PM
Base Gogeta with constipation, half a neck and a bad fever might be tickled by Cell. We're talking about a guy who would be significantly above the likes of Base Gotenks whom in turn was greatly implied to be above the likes of any SSJ2.
Why do you have base gogeta so much higher than base gotenks? There shouldn't be too big of a gap between the fathers and the sons.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Post-ROSAT Gotenks was stated to have made some significant gains over his Pre-ROSAT self...enough to have potentiallygoneabovehisSSJformPre-ROSATwhileonlybeinginbaseformasdesignatedbyPiccolobutIwon'tgetintothatnow....*cough*

and a fusion of Goku and Vegeta is stated to be able to defeat Super Boo. I infer that to mean SSJ3 Gogeta>Super Boo and if such a case then Gogeta is going to be massively above the likes of Pre-ROSAT Gotenks. And that's not even getting into the idea some of you crazy people go about with your Gogeta rivaling Vegetto points.
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Sir Brofist
Mar 5 2014, 07:24 PM
Post-ROSAT Gotenks was stated to have made some significant gains over his Pre-ROSAT self...enough to have potentiallygoneabovehisSSJformPre-ROSATwhileonlybeinginbaseformasdesignatedbyPiccolobutIwon'tgetintothatnow....*cough*

and a fusion of Goku and Vegeta is stated to be able to defeat Super Boo. I infer that to mean SSJ3 Gogeta>Super Boo and if such a case then Gogeta is going to be massively above the likes of Pre-ROSAT Gotenks. And that's not even getting into the idea some of you crazy people go about with your Gogeta rivaling Vegetto points.
Then that means Gogeta shouldn't have been that strong in the movie fusion reborn.

If anybody has Janemba at Super Buu's level, then that means it should take more than an individual SSJ2 fusion to beat him.

If it took Gotenks at SSJ3 to out power Buu, then a normal Super Gogeta should've still been weaker than Janemba.

Unless if Toei factored in the rival boost for Goku and Vegeta, then I may have no say to that.
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Who said you need to have Janemba at Super Boo's level? I don't see a reason to make him stronger than SSJ Gotenks Post, because SSJ 3 Goku still managed something against him. Fat Janemba was the only other person who had pushed Goku to using SSJ 3, so we can assume Fatty ~> Fat Boo. If Goku was still able to keep up with Super Janemba. Then there is no reason for Janemba to be that strong.
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Mar 5 2014, 08:42 PM
Who said you need to have Janemba at Super Boo's level? I don't see a reason to make him stronger than SSJ Gotenks Post, because SSJ 3 Goku still managed something against him. Fat Janemba was the only other person who had pushed Goku to using SSJ 3, so we can assume Fatty ~> Fat Boo. If Goku was still able to keep up with Super Janemba. Then there is no reason for Janemba to be that strong.
I guess that means even Gotenks could've beaten Super Janemba then.
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Janemba is based on buu and had a power up form a Fat innocent creature to a evil Super named creature so that along with TOEI haxed Goku could get Janemba to around Super Buu.

I personally go with Super Buu beating able to beat Super Janemba the same way SSJ3 Gotenks can beat Super Boo.

Anyway Gogeta should take this with no problem.
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miguelnuva
Mar 6 2014, 07:12 AM
Janemba is based on buu and had a power up form a Fat innocent creature to a evil Super named creature so that along with TOEI haxed Goku could get Janemba to around Super Buu.

I personally go with Super Buu beating able to beat Super Janemba the same way SSJ3 Gotenks can beat Super Boo.
Why does Janemba's 2nd form have to be Super Buu tier? Why can't it just be "stronger than Goku but not greatly so"? Or...

Fat Buu ~< Fat Janemba < SSJ3 Goku < [2nd Form] Janemba ~ [Initial] Super Buu

No hax required. You still get Janemba ~ Super Buu.... just not full power Super Buu. Win win?
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