Was it Gohan's power or his mentality that costed him against Buutenks?

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Was it Gohan's power or his mentality that costed him against Buutenks?
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SSJSC	Mar 5 2014, 12:44 AM Post #16
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	(Deleted) Edited by SSJSC, Mar 5 2014, 12:45 AM.



+ Emmeth	Mar 5 2014, 12:44 AM Post #17
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:35 AM Any reason why they didn't wish Gohan back at the end to beat Kid Buu? Because the Genki Dama was a more fitting way to end it, I reckon.
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+ Yusuke	Mar 5 2014, 12:48 AM Post #18
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Emmeth Mar 5 2014, 12:44 AM SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:35 AM Any reason why they didn't wish Gohan back at the end to beat Kid Buu? Because the Genki Dama was a more fitting way to end it, I reckon. Yeah, it makes sense for the Humans to finally not rely on the Z-Fighters help and take some responsibility in saving their planet. Having Gohan do that would be stupid since he already had his big moment in the Cell Saga. Edited by Yusuke, Mar 5 2014, 12:48 AM.
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SSJSC	Mar 5 2014, 12:50 AM Post #19
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Yusuke Urameshi Mar 5 2014, 12:48 AM Emmeth Mar 5 2014, 12:44 AM SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:35 AM Any reason why they didn't wish Gohan back at the end to beat Kid Buu? Because the Genki Dama was a more fitting way to end it, I reckon. Yeah, it makes sense for the Humans to finally not rely on the Z-Fighters help and take some responsibility in saving their planet. Having Gohan do that would be stupid since he already had his big moment in the Cell Saga. So the sequence of hero for each saga so far is Goku - Gohan - Goku.. I wonder when they're going to make Vegeta the hero this time.



+ Emmeth	Mar 5 2014, 12:51 AM Post #20
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:50 AM I wonder when they're going to make Vegeta the hero this time. Apparently next movie. Honestly, I don't think Vegeta would be right as the hero. He was initially the villain, and that's why I don't think it's fitting.
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SSJSC	Mar 5 2014, 12:52 AM Post #21
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Emmeth Mar 5 2014, 12:51 AM SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:50 AM I wonder when they're going to make Vegeta the hero this time. Apparently next movie. Honestly, I don't think Vegeta would be right as the hero. He was initially the villain, and that's why I don't think it's fitting. Vegeta progressed a lot since the time he was a villian. At least 10-15 years has passed. People change you know that.. Vegeta is an anti-villian/hero now.



+ Yusuke	Mar 5 2014, 01:00 AM Post #22
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:52 AM Emmeth Mar 5 2014, 12:51 AM SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:50 AM I wonder when they're going to make Vegeta the hero this time. Apparently next movie. Honestly, I don't think Vegeta would be right as the hero. He was initially the villain, and that's why I don't think it's fitting. Vegeta progressed a lot since the time he was a villian. At least 10-15 years has passed. People change you know that.. Vegeta is an anti-villian/hero now. Still, it doesn't feel right for him to be the main hero.
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SuperSaiyan1993	Mar 5 2014, 02:21 AM Post #23
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	Gohan was heavily outclassed in terms of power. Although Gohan had a good edge over Super Buu, he was not ready to handle both merged. It was something like this: Gohan: 160% Super Buu's Power Gotenks: 110% Super Buu's power Buutenks: 210% Super Buu's power
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Mar 5 2014, 04:58 AM Post #24
魔王子 Posts: 9,798 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	His power was clearly the problem. He was fairly confident about fighting him and found himself getting slapped in the face by reality.
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Ben	Mar 5 2014, 05:06 AM Post #25
Posts: 564 Group: Donator Member #10,230 Joined: September 20, 2013 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Mar 5 2014, 04:58 AM His power was clearly the problem. He was fairly confident about fighting him and found himself getting slapped in the face by reality. Okay, but here is my question on that: 1. Can Mystic Gohan get a rage boost? Not saying he can or can't, I'm not sure that was concretely resolved. 2. Everything we saw out of Gohan up until then would lead you to believe that his response to being greatly outclassed (see Vegeta and Namek/Freeza) is to get angry and dig in (hitting the rage boost), not losing focus and wimping out. I feel like this is what SSJSC was getting at here, he can correct me if I'm wrong. That's my problem with it as well; if we saw him get angry and hit the rage boost, but then still be unable to do anything and get absorbed after exhausting himself, I would be 100% fine with it. So I guess the follow up is this: If Gohan is at 160%, and Buutenks is at 210%, IF Gohan could get a rage boost once again and in fact did, where would that put him vs. Buutenks? Edited by Ben, Mar 5 2014, 05:13 AM.



SSJSC	Mar 5 2014, 05:13 AM Post #26
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Equal to buutenks or above. Thanks, but the thread wasn't addressing that question even though I made a thread on your thoughts a while ago on here with a different thread. I was asking if Mstic Gohan was really powerless against buutenks or he lost confidence after gotenks and piccolo got absorbed and it costed him the fight. Edited by SSJSC, Mar 5 2014, 05:25 AM.



+ Pyrus	Mar 5 2014, 06:09 AM Post #27
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Gohan's latent power and then some was completely drawn out into his Base form. The well was sucked dry. As for the original question, it's pretty clear in the manga that Gohan was at a big power disadvantage. His mentality had nothing to do with it. It's only in the anime that he might've started out near Bootenks' power but he lost some courage due to Boo's mind games, which I thought was a great addition.
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SSJSC	Mar 5 2014, 06:11 AM Post #28
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Kamikaze Pyro Mar 5 2014, 06:09 AM Gohan's latent power and then some was completely drawn out into his Base form. The well was sucked dry. As for the original question, it's pretty clear in the manga that Gohan was at a big power disadvantage. His mentality had nothing to do with it. It's only in the anime that he might've started out near Bootenks' power but he lost some courage due to Boo's mind games, which I thought was a great addition. Lol, Toei made GT the worse.. they had everyone dying and made people not know what the F was going on.



+ Yusuke	Mar 5 2014, 06:18 AM Post #29
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Kamikaze Pyro Mar 5 2014, 06:09 AM Gohan's latent power and then some was completely drawn out into his Base form. The well was sucked dry. As for the original question, it's pretty clear in the manga that Gohan was at a big power disadvantage. His mentality had nothing to do with it. It's only in the anime that he might've started out near Bootenks' power but he lost some courage due to Boo's mind games, which I thought was a great addition. Logically speaking though, it doesn't make much sense. Mystic Gohan wasn't a lot stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks so for him to give Buutenks a tough fight would not be possible.
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+ Pyrus	Mar 5 2014, 06:24 AM Post #30
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Yusuke Urameshi Mar 5 2014, 06:18 AM Kamikaze Pyro Mar 5 2014, 06:09 AM Gohan's latent power and then some was completely drawn out into his Base form. The well was sucked dry. As for the original question, it's pretty clear in the manga that Gohan was at a big power disadvantage. His mentality had nothing to do with it. It's only in the anime that he might've started out near Bootenks' power but he lost some courage due to Boo's mind games, which I thought was a great addition. Logically speaking though, it doesn't make much sense. Mystic Gohan wasn't a lot stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks so for him to give Buutenks a tough fight would not be possible. Perhaps things were different in the anime.
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