Was it Gohan's power or his mentality that costed him against Buutenks?

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Was it Gohan's power or his mentality that costed him against Buutenks?
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SSJSC	Mar 5 2014, 12:14 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	What do you guys think really happened with Gohan after Buu absorbed Piccolo and Gotenks into him? Did Gohan really stood no chance at beating Buutenks or did Gohan still have a chance at beating Buutenks, but just dropped in confidence and let that distracted him?



Ben	Mar 5 2014, 12:18 AM Post #2
Posts: 564 Group: Donator Member #10,230 Joined: September 20, 2013 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:14 AM What do you guys think really happened with Gohan after Buu absorbed Piccolo and Gotenks into him? Did Gohan really stood no chance at beating Buutenks or did Gohan still have a chance at beating Buutenks, but just dropped in confidence and let that distracted him? Real answer: Gohan SHOULD have had a chance at beating him, but Goku had to be the one that beat him because Toriyama/Editor/Fans/Whatever. So I think the answer is thtat he was distracted as you said, but it seems kind of like a cop out to me to allow Goku to take center stage again.



SSJSC	Mar 5 2014, 12:20 AM Post #3
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Ben Mar 5 2014, 12:18 AM SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:14 AM What do you guys think really happened with Gohan after Buu absorbed Piccolo and Gotenks into him? Did Gohan really stood no chance at beating Buutenks or did Gohan still have a chance at beating Buutenks, but just dropped in confidence and let that distracted him? Real answer: Gohan SHOULD have had a chance at beating him, but Goku had to be the one that beat him because Toriyama/Editor/Fans/Whatever. So I think the answer is thtat he was distracted as you said, but it seems kind of like a cop out to me to allow Goku to take center stage again. So the Gohan/Buutenks fight is nothing more than a filler/plothole right?



Ben	Mar 5 2014, 12:23 AM Post #4
Posts: 564 Group: Donator Member #10,230 Joined: September 20, 2013 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:20 AM Ben Mar 5 2014, 12:18 AM SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:14 AM What do you guys think really happened with Gohan after Buu absorbed Piccolo and Gotenks into him? Did Gohan really stood no chance at beating Buutenks or did Gohan still have a chance at beating Buutenks, but just dropped in confidence and let that distracted him? Real answer: Gohan SHOULD have had a chance at beating him, but Goku had to be the one that beat him because Toriyama/Editor/Fans/Whatever. So I think the answer is thtat he was distracted as you said, but it seems kind of like a cop out to me to allow Goku to take center stage again. So the Gohan/Buutenks fight is nothing more than a filler/plothole right? Well, filler in that it was filling panels/time, sure. Gotenks getting absorbed made sense to me, he was overly cocky and not taking the fight seriously enough. But Gohan? Nah. Edited by Ben, Mar 5 2014, 12:24 AM.



SSJSC	Mar 5 2014, 12:25 AM Post #5
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Are we going to see a real Gohan/Buutenks fight now this time, with Gohan having some upperhand against him?



+ Emmeth	Mar 5 2014, 12:25 AM Post #6
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Not sure where you got plothole from that. Gohan didn't have the power to defeat Gotenks-Boo, as evidenced in both manga and anime. That's why Goku and the Kais came up with the potara plan.
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Ben	Mar 5 2014, 12:27 AM Post #7
Posts: 564 Group: Donator Member #10,230 Joined: September 20, 2013 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Emmeth Mar 5 2014, 12:25 AM Not sure where you got plothole from that. Gohan didn't have the power to defeat Gotenks-Boo, as evidenced in both manga and anime. That's why Goku and the Kais came up with the potara plan. Having the power to destroy him and losing your cool and being absorbed are two different things, though. I think what SSJC was getting at was that adult/teen Gohan wasn't really the kind to get rattled like that and lose focus, so it seemed out of character.



+ Emmeth	Mar 5 2014, 12:28 AM Post #8
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Ben Mar 5 2014, 12:27 AM Emmeth Mar 5 2014, 12:25 AM Not sure where you got plothole from that. Gohan didn't have the power to defeat Gotenks-Boo, as evidenced in both manga and anime. That's why Goku and the Kais came up with the potara plan. Having the power to destroy him and losing your cool and being absorbed are two different things, though. I think what SSJC was getting at was that adult/teen Gohan wasn't really the kind to get rattled like that and lose focus, so it seemed out of character. I got that, but why would he be portrayed as someone who loses focus when he seemed to confident earlier on. Even early on in the fight vs Gotenks-Boo he was pretty confident.
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+ Yusuke	Mar 5 2014, 12:30 AM Post #9
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Ben Mar 5 2014, 12:23 AM SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:20 AM Ben Mar 5 2014, 12:18 AM SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:14 AM What do you guys think really happened with Gohan after Buu absorbed Piccolo and Gotenks into him? Did Gohan really stood no chance at beating Buutenks or did Gohan still have a chance at beating Buutenks, but just dropped in confidence and let that distracted him? Real answer: Gohan SHOULD have had a chance at beating him, but Goku had to be the one that beat him because Toriyama/Editor/Fans/Whatever. So I think the answer is thtat he was distracted as you said, but it seems kind of like a cop out to me to allow Goku to take center stage again. So the Gohan/Buutenks fight is nothing more than a filler/plothole right? Well, filler in that it was filling panels/time, sure. Gotenks getting absorbed made sense to me, he was overly cocky and not taking the fight seriously enough. But Gohan? Nah. Please don't get into the whole "Gohan should have been the main character" crap. Toriyama felt that Gohan shouldn't be in the main role and the authors opinion is final. Just because a bunch of Gohan fans feel that he should have been in that role has no weight. As for the topic, Mystic Gohan wasn't stated to be drastically stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. This is confirmed when Goten says Gohan isn't a lot stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. Buutenks having a major lead over Mystic Gohan should come as no suprise. Edited by Yusuke, Mar 5 2014, 12:31 AM.
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+ Emmeth	Mar 5 2014, 12:33 AM Post #10
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Yusuke Urameshi Mar 5 2014, 12:30 AM Please don't get into the whole "Gohan should have been the main character" crap. Toriyama felt that Gohan shouldn't be in the main role and the authors opinion is final. Just because a bunch of Gohan fans feel that he should have been in that role has no weight. Hey, yo. No need to be so aggressive about it People have different opinions and that's just fine. I feel like Gohan should have had the chance to be the hero, but understand why Goku ended up being the one. He's the original hero and he fits the role better. I get that
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Ben	Mar 5 2014, 12:35 AM Post #11
Posts: 564 Group: Donator Member #10,230 Joined: September 20, 2013 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Yusuke Urameshi Mar 5 2014, 12:30 AM Ben Mar 5 2014, 12:23 AM SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:20 AM Ben Mar 5 2014, 12:18 AM SSJSC Mar 5 2014, 12:14 AM What do you guys think really happened with Gohan after Buu absorbed Piccolo and Gotenks into him? Did Gohan really stood no chance at beating Buutenks or did Gohan still have a chance at beating Buutenks, but just dropped in confidence and let that distracted him? Real answer: Gohan SHOULD have had a chance at beating him, but Goku had to be the one that beat him because Toriyama/Editor/Fans/Whatever. So I think the answer is thtat he was distracted as you said, but it seems kind of like a cop out to me to allow Goku to take center stage again. So the Gohan/Buutenks fight is nothing more than a filler/plothole right? Well, filler in that it was filling panels/time, sure. Gotenks getting absorbed made sense to me, he was overly cocky and not taking the fight seriously enough. But Gohan? Nah. Please don't get into the whole "Gohan should have been the main character" crap. Toriyama felt that Gohan shouldn't be in the main role and the authors opinion is final. Just because a bunch of Gohan fans feel that he should have been in that role has no weight. As for the topic, Mystic Gohan wasn't stated to be drastically stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. This is confirmed when Goten says Gohan isn't a lot stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. Buutenks having a major lead over Mystic Gohan should come as no suprise. I promise, I'm not making it a debate about that, but why the fight ended so abrubptly and I think SSJC has a point there. Getting absorbed was a plot device to bring on the main event rather than give us another drawn out battle, it has nothing to do with whether Gohan should have been the main character or not.



SSJSC	Mar 5 2014, 12:35 AM Post #12
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Any reason why they didn't wish Gohan back at the end to beat Kid Buu?



+ Yusuke	Mar 5 2014, 12:36 AM Post #13
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Emmeth Mar 5 2014, 12:33 AM Yusuke Urameshi Mar 5 2014, 12:30 AM Please don't get into the whole "Gohan should have been the main character" crap. Toriyama felt that Gohan shouldn't be in the main role and the authors opinion is final. Just because a bunch of Gohan fans feel that he should have been in that role has no weight. Hey, yo. No need to be so aggressive about it People have different opinions and that's just fine. I feel like Gohan should have had the chance to be the hero, but understand why Goku ended up being the one. He's the original hero and he fits the role better. I get that Sorry, I guess my frustration witn another thread carried over to this one. No hard feelings Ben! I guess all of that has to do with me being a Goku fan lol. And besides, Gohan had his moment in the Cell Sags EDIT: Gohan got absorbed for the same reason Gotenks got absorbed. To move the story forward. Edited by Yusuke, Mar 5 2014, 12:38 AM.
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Ben	Mar 5 2014, 12:38 AM Post #14
Posts: 564 Group: Donator Member #10,230 Joined: September 20, 2013 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Yusuke Urameshi Mar 5 2014, 12:36 AM Emmeth Mar 5 2014, 12:33 AM Yusuke Urameshi Mar 5 2014, 12:30 AM Please don't get into the whole "Gohan should have been the main character" crap. Toriyama felt that Gohan shouldn't be in the main role and the authors opinion is final. Just because a bunch of Gohan fans feel that he should have been in that role has no weight. Hey, yo. No need to be so aggressive about it People have different opinions and that's just fine. I feel like Gohan should have had the chance to be the hero, but understand why Goku ended up being the one. He's the original hero and he fits the role better. I get that Sorry, I guess my frustration witn another thread carried over to this one. No hard feelings Ben! I guess all of that has to do with me being a Goku fan lol. Nah, it's all good, I just would have liked to see a good Gohan vs. Buutenks battle. All that build up for Mystic Gohan and then BAM, he gets absorbed.



+ Yusuke	Mar 5 2014, 12:41 AM Post #15
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Ben Mar 5 2014, 12:38 AM Yusuke Urameshi Mar 5 2014, 12:36 AM Emmeth Mar 5 2014, 12:33 AM Yusuke Urameshi Mar 5 2014, 12:30 AM Please don't get into the whole "Gohan should have been the main character" crap. Toriyama felt that Gohan shouldn't be in the main role and the authors opinion is final. Just because a bunch of Gohan fans feel that he should have been in that role has no weight. Hey, yo. No need to be so aggressive about it People have different opinions and that's just fine. I feel like Gohan should have had the chance to be the hero, but understand why Goku ended up being the one. He's the original hero and he fits the role better. I get that Sorry, I guess my frustration witn another thread carried over to this one. No hard feelings Ben! I guess all of that has to do with me being a Goku fan lol. Nah, it's all good, I just would have liked to see a good Gohan vs. Buutenks battle. All that build up for Mystic Gohan and then BAM, he gets absorbed. To be fair though, Gohan really didn't have much build up. He had his Z Sword training and then their was the waiting for Elder Kaioshin to finish the ritual. The same argument could be made for Gotenks IMO. And it does make sense for Gohan to lose to Buutenks given that Gohan himself wasnlt a whole lot stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.
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