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What if Gohan was the first one to go SSJ than Goku as a kid?
Topic Started: Mar 1 2014, 04:05 AM (1,037 Views)
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Do you think he would've been able to stop Frieza like he did with Cell?
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No, Gohan would get totally destroyed by Freeza. His base form is too weak for SSJ to make a big difference against Freeza. Honestly, I feel he caps at about 10% of Freeza's maximum.
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Mar 1 2014, 04:18 AM
No, Gohan would get totally destroyed by Freeza. His base form is too weak for SSJ to make a big difference against Freeza. Honestly, I feel he caps at about 10% of Freeza's maximum.
I thought Gohan was suppose to be stronger and more superior than Goku though..
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Mar 1 2014, 04:20 AM
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Mar 1 2014, 04:18 AM
No, Gohan would get totally destroyed by Freeza. His base form is too weak for SSJ to make a big difference against Freeza. Honestly, I feel he caps at about 10% of Freeza's maximum.
I thought Gohan was suppose to be stronger and more superior than Goku though..
Not at the time. Goku had a multitude advantage in power over Gohan.
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Mar 1 2014, 04:24 AM
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Mar 1 2014, 04:20 AM
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Mar 1 2014, 04:18 AM
No, Gohan would get totally destroyed by Freeza. His base form is too weak for SSJ to make a big difference against Freeza. Honestly, I feel he caps at about 10% of Freeza's maximum.
I thought Gohan was suppose to be stronger and more superior than Goku though..
Not at the time. Goku had a multitude advantage in power over Gohan.
And how much gap was there in between Gohan and Vegeta at that time then?
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Nah. I don't think Gohan emotionally mature enough to handle it. If you're assuming that Goku DIDN'T go Super Saiyan in the Frieza fight, I think Frieza is a good enough strategist that he would have picked him off first and used his death as a way to completely break Gohan's will to fight. I know that Gohan was capable of going berserk in spurts at this time, but Frieza had a way with words. The scenario I see is that Frieza could have killed Goku, prompting Gohan to go super saiyan. But then, could have manipulated Gohan while avoiding his attacks to the point that the child was too busy despairing to properly formulate an attack.

"This is your fault, you LET your father die and failed him."
"What will your mother think, losing her entire family in one day?"
"Why don't you just join your friends?"

While some very strong adults or even adolescents could perhaps think past these taunts, I honestly think that a little kid would allow these thoughts to consume them, and I'm sure Frieza is intelligent enough to see that. He would just have to wait until Gohan is a wreck and attack at max power. Even Goku was having trouble defeating Frieza, as a super saiyan, with a clear mind. I feel killing Gohan would be a cakewalk.
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Mar 1 2014, 04:18 AM
No, Gohan would get totally destroyed by Freeza. His base form is too weak for SSJ to make a big difference against Freeza. Honestly, I feel he caps at about 10% of Freeza's maximum.
I thought Gohan was suppose to be stronger and more superior than Goku though..
Not at the time. Goku had a multitude advantage in power over Gohan.
And how much gap was there in between Gohan and Vegeta at that time then?
3-4x? That's my guess, probably around 600-700,000 compared to Vegeta whom was in the high million-low two million range. By official numbers Vegeta would have a HELL of a rough battle if he managed to defeat Freeza in SSJ.
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This is going off of game knowledge but Gohan's base in the ROSAT was weaker than Goku's own but once he went SSJ he easily tossed away SSJ Goku's Kamehameha Wave, which adds an amp if I'm correct.

Going off this I believe Gohan would have thrashed Frieza, his SSJ2 is unique to him so why shouldn't his SSJ?
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Mar 1 2014, 06:13 AM
This is going off of game knowledge but Gohan's base in the ROSAT was weaker than Goku's own but once he went SSJ he easily tossed away SSJ Goku's Kamehameha Wave, which adds an amp if I'm correct.

Going off this I believe Gohan would have thrashed Frieza, his SSJ2 is unique to him so why shouldn't his SSJ?
This is the Gohan from the Frieza Saga, not the Cell games, in case you didn't know.
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Mar 1 2014, 06:13 AM
This is going off of game knowledge but Gohan's base in the ROSAT was weaker than Goku's own but once he went SSJ he easily tossed away SSJ Goku's Kamehameha Wave, which adds an amp if I'm correct.

Going off this I believe Gohan would have thrashed Frieza, his SSJ2 is unique to him so why shouldn't his SSJ?
I seriously doubt Goku was pushing very hard considering that Gohan wasn't SSj at that time. However, irregardless, that is filler.

There's also technically no proof that an amp happens when in a transformed state. Evidence is that is possibly doesn't because Freeza was able to push into Goku's Kamehameha, and he was weaker than SSj Goku.
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Mar 1 2014, 06:25 AM
There's also technically no proof that an amp happens when in a transformed state.
Does Vegeta's Final Flash not count? Or perhaps Goku's IT Kamehameha
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With a rage boost at Super Saiyan he MIGHT stand a chance. Although getting angry in that form might take him to SS2 anyway.
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Gohan caps in at about 1,500,000 when he's enraged against Freeza. An enraged Gohan would manage to beat 50% Freeza, but that's the maximum. We all seem to be in agreement.
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Mar 1 2014, 06:25 AM
There's also technically no proof that an amp happens when in a transformed state. Evidence is that is possibly doesn't because Freeza was able to push into Goku's Kamehameha, and he was weaker than SSj Goku.
What do you think Goku was going to beat Pure Boo with, then?
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Mar 1 2014, 06:13 AM
This is going off of game knowledge but Gohan's base in the ROSAT was weaker than Goku's own but once he went SSJ he easily tossed away SSJ Goku's Kamehameha Wave, which adds an amp if I'm correct.

Going off this I believe Gohan would have thrashed Frieza, his SSJ2 is unique to him so why shouldn't his SSJ?
I seriously doubt Goku was pushing very hard considering that Gohan wasn't SSj at that time. However, irregardless, that is filler.

There's also technically no proof that an amp happens when in a transformed state. Evidence is that is possibly doesn't because Freeza was able to push into Goku's Kamehameha, and he was weaker than SSj Goku.
Lol like I said game knowledge, I agree though.

How is there no proof though? Sure, there are no statements but for Vegeta to have a chance of defeating Perfect Cell speaks otherwise. His Final Flash did more damage to Cell than his ki enhance kick to the neck. And after he attacked with the Final Flash, he shoot barrages of ki blast and none took effect, with Cell walking through it like a maze. There has to be some implication that there are amps due to these cases.

@ SSJSC I was making a point about his SSJ2 being special, and that his SSJ should be no different, and I know it was Frieza saga Gohan ;)
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