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this guy knows what he's talking about
Topic Started: Feb 23 2014, 12:06 AM (533 Views)
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so, buckley made a really good point in this video. we need to get past the point where we are accepting of differences in people, to the point where we just don't care.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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As much as it would be nice to move beyond that it is the unfortunate fact that we aren't even at the point globally where we are all accepting so in the meantime I personally am quite happy to have things like this celebrated as it helps promote the idea that it is a good thing to be yourself and such.
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

The thing is, while we all may agree on the general outline of concepts like racism (and so many others) and understand that most are prevalent in nature to varying degrees and accepting that we are apart of nature; we have a uniquely shaped archetype of perceiving things that has been shaped in an innumerable amount of ways, with some things having a huge, direct impact on this dogma and other things only minimally and indirectly tweaking this archetype. Many believe that the archetype they currently adhere to is the best belief system for them right now, if they didn't then why would they believe what they do? This should hold true even if they know their belief system is always changing and what they thought was right yesterday could be wrong today.

While some may give too much power to the single most groundbreaking trait unique to human beings known as consciousness and believe its influence is undefinable/unwavering; others may not give it enough credit by failing to recognize the radical change and influence significant events, individuals and time have on our consciousness to dramatically affect our emotions and don't realize the significant impact this has on our belief system. For the former, this can lead to frustration and anger, feelings of hopelessness and cynicism. Some fight, others give up and don't realize the same waves that drive people to irrational thought can work the other way as well. Since this isn't usually readily apparent, most people don't even attempt to try to be an influence against thought and action they believe irrational or wrong. This leads to many individuals with righteous beliefs but they are apathetic and frustrated because they lack the understanding and the great passion that has inspired all great acts and men through time.

Those that have exemplary passion and recognized our great malleability are often, I believe, the Gandhi or MLK types that understand the great power and influence we have on our collective psyche and fight to reverse it. I'm not saying Gandhi and MLK Jr. gave too much credit to the nurture argument, but, I do believe they understood our great emotional wildcard and how it takes many reptilian urges like racism and personifies them in a way. The latter who give consciousness too much power can also be frustrated but often ironically are disconnected to varying degrees on the nature of their own beliefs and don't have a full comprehension of the influencing factors that emotions and the progression of life have on their character.

In other words, I think they tend not to be introspective because they believe that the roots in their genes and all the major events that shaped us growing up don't allow us to truly change. They underestimate the power that our emotions possess over us as we proceed through life and often have a different perception of themselves to varying degrees versus who they actually are today. They believe because we can consciously process something and choose to ignore these urges that we can be free of them altogether.

I think the closer to the middle between both extremes an individual becomes the more they understand the malleability of the human ego, from the constant subtle unnoticeable day to day changes to major life events and consciously recognizing their influence. Only very few really in the middle may have the balance between the naturally occurring concept of racism and the unique influence of human traits, allowing them to identify the variables, isolate them and separate the innate concept and the unique way we modify and personalize it. They understand that we are apart of nature and that because we have an innate ability to be racist not only will there always be racism but it will also exist in every individual to varying degrees.

From genes to the uncontrollable like where and when you were born and the influence of the people around you throughout life that involuntarily mold your belief system. One person can be born to a family that isn't racist and their parents can point out that the color of your skin or place of origin are uncontrollable and random; that this is superficial and only reflects in their physical form and thus it is irrational to be racist. Then the person born to the racist family rationalizes their racism by only hearing negative things about people of a certain kind and thus it seems rational that if they all share this very clear and hugely significant physical difference that they all are incompatible and they all endemically possess a set of negative traits.

While the growing majority of first world people are not racist and as intelligence rises, racism drops, this is not necessarily indicative of whether or not racism is wrong. Rather, it only seems to suggest that as the world grows and becomes more intelligent, we are connecting more easily and rely on one another regardless of race. In many cases, like mine, my parents never demonstrated racist behavior and even though I may possess the reptilian concept of racism, the power of consciousness on emotion and vice versa is able to ignore or suppress this. Even if you are not racist you still possess the ability to be racist simply because there are racist members of our own species, which is why there is no "getting over racism". We may not discriminate against other races or be directly racist, but, I think almost every person who is legitimately not racist has still experienced a moment where the race of a person provokes a negative subconscious reaction.

For instance, seeing an Arab in traditional Muslim attire boarding your plane with a few others like him right after 9/11. You may not be racist and consciously believe this is just a prototypical irrational reptilian response, it is still tied to the innate concept of racism. How we were raised, by who, when, where, the sum of every experience and cumulative emotional response throughout life to other races and our understanding/awareness of how our humanity affects us, our emotions, and how those affect racism. To be perhaps almost too general, you can trim a lot off of all of this and simply state my opinion as believing that the unique influence of humanity on a reptilian racist instinct and the whole context of an individuals life simply defines how an individual personally rationalizes this modified instinct and to what degree. However, while all of this might be complicated fancy talk, I think it is impossible to eliminate racism.

Sex is a good example to contrast with racism, as the sex drive is much stronger than the innate racism in us, but, it comes from the exact same part of the brain that racism stems from and has a greater hold on us. In this case, the comparison would be those who used their power of consciousness to not have sex, essentially a parallel between anti-racism and celibacy, vs. racism and being sexually active. These things are apart of us because we are apart of nature. It is simple circumstance and randomness that determine racist behavior.

Perhaps our growing intelligence and IQ levels as well as communications with individuals and unique experiences we have never been capable of having in the past will continue to make it easier to not be a racist than hundreds of years ago and in third world countries today where becoming a racist is nigh inevitable. Perhaps the link between rising intelligence and the fall of racism is more than coincidental and as we become more intelligent the easier it is to peg racism as irrational. However, even if this is the case and the more fortitude our humanity gains causes reptilian urges and responses to be more easily denied, it does not mean we are not apart of nature.

This whole consciousness thing is a big deal. We have taken the physical evolution out of evolutionary theory, at least for mankind, by using our unique fiery passion and intelligence to force the environment to adapt to us physically rather than us adapting to fit the environment. In my opinion, the more we continue to make our physical evolution irrelevant, the more our intelligence levels and mental acuity and evolution become exponentially greater. We are still just another animal, but, our third level of our brain above the reptile and mammal has rendered the primary aspect of physical evolution nearly inert, and the more we evolve mentally the more our physical evolution becomes superfluous.
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

I don't see why it's bad to care about if someone, celebrity or not turns out to be gay.

What if you have a crush on them? What's wrong with being disappointed?
Ellen Page was fairly obvious but still NOOO I'LL NEVER GET TO MARRY HER! Or in the case of legitimate relationship chances if they turn out to be gay does it make you an a***** to be sad about it?
I don't think people should be hated or called out on what they like or dislike unless they act like a douche about it, if you don't like gay people whatever just don't hang banners on your house or preach about it being wrong.


With celebrities I think we're past the point where they should do big reveals of it it should just be casually mentioned in a magazine or whatever that they're in a relationship with someone of the same gender.
Otherwise it's kind of easy to paint it as being a rebel they're doing a big reveal of something "bad" for attention or they've stopped caring about what society thinks.
Should every gay person feel the need to reveal it that way or something? Don't see why people shouldn't be encouraged to be like yeah I'm gay whatever.

Making it seem like some big important thing you need to tell everyone is just as bad as never coming out of the proverbial closet. It shouldn't matter either way and people should be able to react to it however they feel like(unless violent or otherwise horribly) everyone has differences and that's what makes the human race interesting.
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Don't care who's gay or who isn't, personal choices are personal.

I do agree with the guys opinion on gay parades, though. It seems absurd that homosexuals feel the need to parade around acting like cocks (no pun intended) to prove that..well, I don't really even know what they're trying to prove, let it die already. You're gay. Want a cookie?
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Feb 26 2014, 09:45 AM
Don't care who's gay or who isn't, personal choices are personal.
Problem with that is that it's not a choice. People just don't suddenly wake up one day and decide that they like the same sex. It's something that they usually figure out when they're little kids, they're just not old enough to know what their feelings mean.
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