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| SSJSC | Feb 20 2014, 05:44 PM Post #1 |
 
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So since some you guys say SSj3 is the saiyans' greatest potential at the end of Z and BoG, and it is the level of super saiyan that drains energy and requires hidden reserves, what do you guys think of SSj4? Do you think if ssj4 was canon, it would drain more energy than ssj3 or what? How would a hypothetical ssj4 work? Or should it not exist? (I'd buy a SSj4, but not a SSj5). Edited by SSJSC, Feb 20 2014, 05:55 PM.
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| Hearts | Feb 20 2014, 06:05 PM Post #2 |
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From what i see, SSJ4 puts you in your prime and gives you the most power you can have.. It all really depends on how you achieve SSJ4, if its from the Golden Ozaruu thingy then i guess it would work the same way But if it works like SSj, SSJ2 and SSJ3 then i would guess that it would be hard to maintain for even 10 seconds, it would be too unstable |
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| Topographic Oceans | Feb 20 2014, 06:32 PM Post #3 |
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A hypothetical canon Super Saiyan 4 would be too much for Goku and the others to handle, considering how they struggled with Super Saiyan 3. The only way to make Super Saiyan 4 work is as a independent form, not related to the other three and that doesn't cause strain. Basically, the way GT did it. SS4 was a really smart move in GT's part, even if it shows some inconsitencies. Making it unrelated to the rest of the forms was at least a refreshing change. A canonical SS4 following SS3 would prove to much for the Saiyans to handle. |
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| SSJSC | Feb 20 2014, 06:58 PM Post #4 |
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Is that the reason why SSj4 needed to be a different color than yellow or is there another reason why SSj4 isn't the same color as SSj1 2 and 3? |
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| Hearts | Feb 20 2014, 07:28 PM Post #5 |
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Hair color has nothing to do with anything |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Feb 20 2014, 07:46 PM Post #6 |
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SSJ: This form is great. Goku going SSJ for the first time was epic and got me into the series. Very few moments in any series match the epicness this form presented with it's first appearance. SSJ2: SSJ2, arguably my favorite form that recieves some decent competition from SSJ4, just looks bad. a***. Seriously the sharper, more jagged hair looks intense. The raging sparks that bounce off the aura is beyond cool, and intense facial expression looks really damn cool. SSJ3: SSJ3, while not quite as badass as SSJ2, is still really awesome. The long spiky hair and lack of eyebrows looks really intimidating and the form just screams powerful. SSJ4: SSJ4, competition for SSJ2, is also really damn cool. The appearance itself doesn't quite match the badass look of SSJ2, but the very nature of what it is gives SSJ2 competition. The idea of coming full circle and combining Oozau and SSJ was genius. |
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| Barbossa | Feb 20 2014, 09:23 PM Post #7 |
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For the longest while, SSJ3 & SSJ4 didn't sit well with me. The lack of eyebrows on SSJ3 freaked me out, and worse I don't even know why that happened. Then I couldn't get over the pinkness of Goku's SSJ4, even when he was smashing up Baby, but Vegeta's SSJ4 was better, as was SSJ4 Gogeta so I came around. Still can't look at SSJ3 for too long though. The lack of eyebrows, man, it's those empty furrowwws. |
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| + Kaboom | Feb 20 2014, 10:57 PM Post #8 |
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Super Saiyan 3 is such a hassle to use because it pushes the current limits of the Saiyans' body, while the reintroduction of Oozaru means that Super Saiyan 4 uses a NEW actually-transformed body with different limits. Hence the higher amount of power and the much-less-severe-if-even-there-at-all power drain issues. And I like Super Saiyan 4 just the way it is. The way it works by bringing back Oozaru and combining it with Super Saiyan makes it unique. |
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| SSJSC | Feb 20 2014, 10:59 PM Post #9 |
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Yup, the only thing that they need to do here is just have Akira remaster it and write it anew. That's it. One question though: Why can't they make the SSj4 yellow fur and yellow hair instead of a black hair and red fur? Why does it have to be the latter? Edited by SSJSC, Feb 20 2014, 11:00 PM.
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| Topographic Oceans | Feb 20 2014, 11:06 PM Post #10 |
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It's a design choice. Since SS4 is not a continuation of SS3, it doesn't need to follow the same color scheme. Too much yellow wouldn't be a good choice.
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| + miguelnuva | Feb 21 2014, 02:01 AM Post #11 |
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Ssj4 all ready drains like ssj3. The difference is the saiyan doesn't respond to the energy loss like with ssj3 because its so much more energy and when the saiyan returns to base the lower ssj forms are still useable. |
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| + Kaboom | Feb 21 2014, 02:43 AM Post #12 |
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Because Super Saiyan 4 is interesting by being different. |
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| AvatarReiko | Mar 6 2014, 06:29 PM Post #13 |
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I think ssj4 is a saiyan's true form and hidden potential. SSJ4, I think, is a whole different branch of saiyan power and a part of a different set of transformations. It can be achieved without using the other ssj forms as prerequisites. It requires one to have achieved ssj, and to have gained control of the golden ozaruu form. SSj2 is basically the same as SSJ1, just with a dramatic increase in Ki output and speed. SSJ3 is a saiyan's hidden power and achieved with intense training. The power is hidden and one has to push hard to find it. On the contrary, that was filler only. I don't think this is a form anyone can achieve. If it was as simply as training to raise Ki, Vegeta would have just trained until he achieved it. This leads me to believe that a part of achieving this form is a saiyan, having already mastered ssj2, increasing his ki to the absolute limits. it was implied that this form is an exception, and the reason Goku managed to achieve it was due to his vigorous and intensive training sessions in other world. As for gotenks, it was result of the power boost fem fusion. iI think if you had a 1 million saiyans training for it, only 2 would actually achieve it. Edited by AvatarReiko, Mar 6 2014, 06:37 PM.
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