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The difference between a SSJ1 and SSJ2?
Topic Started: Feb 1 2014, 12:18 AM (4,594 Views)
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Don't forget the fact they're either more cocky/serious.
Majin Vegeta and Gohan = Cocky
SSJ2 Vegeta/Goku = Serious.
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Feb 1 2014, 04:46 AM
It's it labelled as SS2 than it was SS2.
Gohan is never said to be a SSJ2 in the movie and a director or writer has never committed on the form. That's why both sides have a strong argument.
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I just can't tell the difference for Vegeta as a SSJ 1 or 2.
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SSJ2 is quite different than SSJ, it has more spiker hair elecktriciti surging the user, and also gives a great power boost.

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miguelnuva
Feb 4 2014, 12:02 AM
That's why both sides have a strong argument.
Are you kidding? IdiotBallFights' side bases their entire argument on the lack of the most superficial of features. Virtually everything points towards Gohan being an SSJ2. Everything but just that superficial lightning.
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Feb 5 2014, 06:25 AM
miguelnuva
Feb 4 2014, 12:02 AM
That's why both sides have a strong argument.
Are you kidding? IdiotBallFights' side bases their entire argument on the lack of the most superficial of features. Virtually everything points towards Gohan being an SSJ2. Everything but just that superficial lightning.
What are you talking about.
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Feb 5 2014, 06:27 AM
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Feb 5 2014, 06:25 AM
miguelnuva
Feb 4 2014, 12:02 AM
That's why both sides have a strong argument.
Are you kidding? IdiotBallFights' side bases their entire argument on the lack of the most superficial of features. Virtually everything points towards Gohan being an SSJ2. Everything but just that superficial lightning.
What are you talking about.
Hair style = SSJ2
Aura(the glow, not the lightning) = SSJ2
Design sketches = SSJ2

Also having him as an SSJ2 makes more sense story-wise. He went SSJ2 because of a freaking android in the Cell Games, in Movie 10, it's his brother and his girlfriend on the line, both of whom are far more important to him than a robot.

You said that both sides have a strong argument, when that clearly isn't the case.
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Feb 5 2014, 01:54 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 06:27 AM
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Feb 5 2014, 06:25 AM
miguelnuva
Feb 4 2014, 12:02 AM
That's why both sides have a strong argument.
Are you kidding? IdiotBallFights' side bases their entire argument on the lack of the most superficial of features. Virtually everything points towards Gohan being an SSJ2. Everything but just that superficial lightning.
What are you talking about.
Hair style = SSJ2
Aura(the glow, not the lightning) = SSJ2
Design sketches = SSJ2

Also having him as an SSJ2 makes more sense story-wise. He went SSJ2 because of a freaking android in the Cell Games, in Movie 10, it's his brother and his girlfriend on the line, both of whom are far more important to him than a robot.

You said that both sides have a strong argument, when that clearly isn't the case.
Hair style: TO the untrained eye Gohan's hair is hard to tell at this point. It looks more like SSJ2 but it also looks like his SSJ hair style from the Budokai onward.

Aura: No lighting is a huge factor toward no SSJ2.

Design= Daiz has been wrong on some things before. Daiz also has Trunks and Vegeta in the ASSJ forms in movie 8 and I get argued down here that the sketches don't matter.

We know Gohan is unable to turn SSJ2 without first turning into a SSJ as shown as the budokai and when he does he needs time to focus more. I lean toward SSJ2 myself but both sides have room to argue.
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SSJ is practically the same as SS2, just with a forced and dramatic increase in Ki output and speed, and the wild electricity signifies that.
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miguelnuva
Feb 5 2014, 10:32 PM
We know Gohan is unable to turn SSJ2 without first turning into a SSJ as shown as the budokai and when he does he needs time to focus more. I lean toward SSJ2 myself but both sides have room to argue.
Im not sure about this, just because he hasnt done it doesnt mean he cant do it, if someone else in the manga has done it then its easily assumable that Gohan can do it aswell.
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miguelnuva
Feb 5 2014, 10:32 PM
We know Gohan is unable to turn SSJ2 without first turning into a SSJ as shown as the budokai and when he does he needs time to focus more. I lean toward SSJ2 myself but both sides have room to argue.
Im not sure about this, just because he hasnt done it doesnt mean he cant do it, if someone else in the manga has done it then its easily assumable that Gohan can do it aswell.
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Here Vegeta goes from Base to SSJ2 right away.
I think I was watching the anime when I made my statement but Vegeta loves to practice when ever he gets a new form versus Gohan who hadn't been a SSJ2 in 7 years.
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Gohan was just showing off. Kibito wanted to see SSJ so Gohan showed him that and then decided to kick it up a notch.
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Something to look for in the manga is usually the facial features get sharper or more intense when a character's in SSj2.
With Goku and Gohan, their eyebows also don't arch above their actual eyes, like they've been seen to do in SSj (post Cell Era)

With the anime it's hard to tell because the character designs and style appearances vary depending on the animation team working on the episode.
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I'd like to say though that with that sharper facial features for SSJ2, let's remember that most of the scenes involving SSJ2 were basically in intense moments and it's not like we've ever seen a calm relaxed SSJ2 just hanging around, drinking coffee and smoking a join.
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