Sir Brofist

Jan 26 2014, 02:16 AM

Actually the temperature of a nuclear explosion of even one dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima had temperatures hotter than the sun itself. Nobody has ever shown to survive such temperatures in DBZ. Since there has never been an exploding planet, there is no way to show that such a thing would be the same thing. Mind you the only people who ever survived exploding planets either had specific durability (Freeza) which honestly bordered on plot, or regeneration in Cell and Boo's case.


The virus shows that Saiyans can get these kind of thigns and that despite their physical nature, they were unable to fight off something effected the body biologically.

Also don't double post.

TConnor_Demonic

Jan 26 2014, 02:27 AM

Goku is a full blooded Saiyan, he contracted the disease that humans found a cure for. Logic dictates that Vegeta, Trunks and the rest of the bunch are susceptible to it as well. There's no getting past that without ignoring Goku is a full blooded Saiyan.

TConnor_Demonic

Jan 26 2014, 02:35 AM

We see evidence that a Saiyan can contract a human disease, you try dancing around it by saying since no other Saiyan got it, then all Saiyan's are basically immune to diseases. Which is dumb. All it means is that, like humans, some Saiyans are immune to some diseases while others are not.

TConnor_Demonic

Jan 26 2014, 02:41 AM

Some good evidence it affected humans is that the cure was made by them. Why bother making a cure for something your race of people are immune to?

TConnor_Demonic

Jan 26 2014, 02:51 AM

You're ignoring everything that's shown and calling everything that doesn't go along with what you call a plothole, which it isn't, at best it's an inconsistency. Bulma never took credit for making the cure, so how is she the one that made it? The only other group of people that could make it are Earth's scientists.

I'll just say this, if you want to ignore things shown in canon that's fine. But don't go acting like your unsupported "facts" are what's true. I'll wait for you to make an argument that isn't full of baseless assumptions.

King Kakarot

Jan 26 2014, 02:56 AM

TConnor_Demonic

Jan 26 2014, 02:51 AM

You're ignoring everything that's shown and calling everything that doesn't go along with what you call a plothole, which it isn't, at best it's an inconsistency. Bulma never took credit for making the cure, so how is she the one that made it? The only other group of people that could make it are Earth's scientists.

I'll just say this, if you want to ignore things shown in canon that's fine. But don't go acting like your unsupported "facts" are what's true. I'll wait for you to make an argument that isn't full of baseless assumptions.

do you know what Occam Razor is?

if not look it up

Bulma is the one who more than likely created the cure since we have no idea about other earth scientists

It's not ignoring it's the fact that you seem to forget that goku isn't human

he drank the most deadliest poison and lived

TConnor_Demonic

Jan 26 2014, 03:04 AM

King Kakarot

Jan 26 2014, 02:56 AM

TConnor_Demonic

Jan 26 2014, 02:51 AM

You're ignoring everything that's shown and calling everything that doesn't go along with what you call a plothole, which it isn't, at best it's an inconsistency. Bulma never took credit for making the cure, so how is she the one that made it? The only other group of people that could make it are Earth's scientists.

I'll just say this, if you want to ignore things shown in canon that's fine. But don't go acting like your unsupported "facts" are what's true. I'll wait for you to make an argument that isn't full of baseless assumptions.

do you know what Occam Razor is?

if not look it up

Bulma is the one who more than likely created the cure since we have no idea about other earth scientists

It's not ignoring it's the fact that you seem to forget that goku isn't human

he drank the most deadliest poison and lived

My explanation for it is simple, like humans, Saiyans have their immunities to some diseases, and no immunities to others. Couple this with the fact that Vegeta refers to Saiyans as humans and it is more than likely they have varied immunities.

Not only did Mirai Trunks not state Bulma made the cure, even in the special she didn't even mention that she had any plans to make a cure. The only logical assumption is that Earth's scientists made it.

Refer to the first paragraph as to why that can be explained.

Sir Brofist

Jan 26 2014, 03:13 AM

Yeah the temperature of some of the largest atomic bombs at its center point can reach temperatures of over 100 million F. compare that to the surface temperature of which is only around 10-20,000 F.

The Earth's core was only estimated to be about 10,000+ F.

You can't even compare those two numbers.