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Why did Dr. Gero not give Cell the capability of locating 17 and 18?; How could Cell have found the androids
Topic Started: Jan 20 2014, 11:44 PM (794 Views)
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As we know, Cell's objective from birth was to consume android 17 and 18 so that he could achieve perfection and become complete. Both 17 and 18 do not have PLs as they are androids, which means Cell would have difficulty tracking them down, since he would not be able to sense their ki. Dr. Gero, the genius scientist that he was must have thought of this problem. Why diid he not give Cell the capability to tack the androids down. Think about it. If the androids purposely tried to hind from cell, it would be Impossible for him to find them since he cannot sense them.
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He's an organic being... I don't see how Gero could have given him the ability to sense a non-living source of energy.
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Jan 21 2014, 12:07 AM
He's an organic being... I don't see how Gero could have given him the ability to sense a non-living source of energy.
This, and plot device.
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The planning of Cell was pretty dumb, to be honest. Yes, Cell was created to be perfect, but by the time he would have been "born", most of humanity would be wiped out and 17/18 could have been defunct. Only the smartness of Cell made him think of a plan to go back to the future, and Dr. Gero certainly didn't anticipate that.

The point of 17/18 is the fact that they can't be sensed. They are androids, and to give them auras would kinda ruin that point.

Also, perfection shouldn't be easy to obtain.
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I think Cell can actually locate them, his sensing ability is able to separate 17/18's senseable energy(they're actually humans, not androids, why is the misnomer getting to you guys so much) from that of regular humans.

To others, 17/18 would be indistinguishable from other humans to an energy senser since the cybernetics can't be sensed, so it would appear as if they were unsenseable.
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Jan 21 2014, 06:09 AM
I think Cell can actually locate them, his sensing ability is able to separate 17/18's senseable energy(they're actually humans, not androids, why is the misnomer getting to you guys so much) from that of regular humans.
But he couldn't. He deduced where the androids were because he felt Piccolo fighting at full power. It had to be the androids, because they were the strongest, next to him.
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Jan 21 2014, 06:11 AM
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Jan 21 2014, 06:09 AM
I think Cell can actually locate them, his sensing ability is able to separate 17/18's senseable energy(they're actually humans, not androids, why is the misnomer getting to you guys so much) from that of regular humans.
But he couldn't. He deduced where the androids were because he felt Piccolo fighting at full power. It had to be the androids, because they were the strongest, next to him.
Ok, I retract that. I thought he could distinguish them from regular humans since he located them in the end anyway, guess I was wrong. If Piccolo and 17 were friends instead of foes, he would not have deduced that it was 17 instead of say, Hercule.
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Jan 21 2014, 06:24 AM
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Jan 21 2014, 06:11 AM
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Jan 21 2014, 06:09 AM
I think Cell can actually locate them, his sensing ability is able to separate 17/18's senseable energy(they're actually humans, not androids, why is the misnomer getting to you guys so much) from that of regular humans.
But he couldn't. He deduced where the androids were because he felt Piccolo fighting at full power. It had to be the androids, because they were the strongest, next to him.
Ok, I retract that. I thought he could distinguish them from regular humans since he located them in the end anyway, guess I was wrong. If Piccolo and 17 were friends instead of foes, he would not have deduced that it was 17 instead of say, Hercule.
Indeed.

However, just because 17 and 18 don't have "ki" doesn't mean that they don't have other types of natural energy. Toriyama described that Ki was a composite of three different energies. It's possible that 17 and 18 don't have one of those three, therefore "ki" doesn't exist inside them.

We also see 17 and 18 in the end of the series giving up genki to the Genki dama. So they at least had this.
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From a plot point of view that would be to boring and easy. Just like how using the DB radar in Z made things waay to easy to find the balls(Since ya know...they fly now).

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17 and 18 was deactived and for all we know wasn't going to be re-actived unless Gero really needed them. So he could have easily just made Cell eat them while they're sleep. Not like Gero was expecting to die at the hands of 17 and 18.
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Jan 20 2014, 11:44 PM
As we know, Cell's objective from birth was to consume android 17 and 18 so that he could achieve perfection and become complete. Both 17 and 18 do not have PLs as they are androids, which means Cell would have difficulty tracking them down, since he would not be able to sense their ki. Dr. Gero, the genius scientist that he was must have thought of this problem. Why diid he not give Cell the capability to tack the androids down. Think about it. If the androids purposely tried to hind from cell, it would be Impossible for him to find them since he cannot sense them.
Very good point.

Well, Gero made Cell out of the cells from many different fighters [Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, Piccolo]

Also, Gero made it so that Cell's physiology would be compatible with both absorbing the cyborgs and garnering power from their inclusion.

Perhaps giving him a way to detect cybernetic organisms would interfere with the delicate processes aforementioned.

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Perhaps Gero never intended on releasing 17 & 18 without Cell also being there to consume them.

Some how in Future Trunks' timeline the androids are unleashed and Gero is killed. We really do not know the details of what happened and how the androids were unleashed but in the main timeline we see that Gero only releases 17 and 18 as an absolute last resort.

He had thought that 19 and himself were more than enough for the Z fighters so he wisely let sleeping dogs lay. However when he realized Vegeta was way out of his range and since Cell was far from completion...he had no other choice but to release 17 and 18.

Most likely, he wass planning on never awakening them and just saving them for Cell and if he had more patience it just might have worked...
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