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new ssj form; coolest form that will be new
Topic Started: Jan 18 2014, 03:11 PM (4,811 Views)
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Jan 18 2014, 04:41 PM
LOL super saiyan yamcha I couldn't tell if you were serious. The only issues I have with ssj god is that it makes the person skinnier and you can't activate whenever you want you need other saiyans. There's a lot of differences between kaioken and ssj god actually
Well he does deserve something, I mean getting blown by a saibaman, and almost dies to gero, and is useless for the rest. He deserves a form, and this will be his form.
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Jan 18 2014, 06:23 PM
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Jan 18 2014, 03:51 PM
I guess I'll post this here as well:
If we look at the individual qualities of SSJ God and Kaioken, you'll find they're nothing alike.
Hair Color:
Kaioken: Black(Appears dark purple or pink because of the aura). SSJ God: Red.
Eye Color/Design
Kaioken: Black(Appears dark purple or pink because of the aura). SSJ God: Red with black pupils.
Aura Color/Design
Kaioken: Red or pink. SSJ God: Orange with a flame like appearance.
Honestly, people only draw a connection between the 2 because the color red is involved in both forms. I'll even post 2 images side by side so you can make a direct comparison yourself:
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We already had this debate somewhere else. I honestly still think it looked like Kaioken in it's beta form, video games, and fanart. But in the actually movie it looked like False Super Saiyan with more brighter colors. But that's just my opinion.

Onto the subject:
Yamcha as a SSJ? Posted Image
The form is only used by Vegeta and Trunks? Why would that be? Sounds like fanfiction bulls*** to me. No offense. Just that there has never been a form exclusive to a single character. Especially a SSJ form. Like a hedgehog? Do you want more Sonic and DBZ comparisons? Your SSJ form sounds like something a bad fanfic of DBZ would post.
First of all, I only put there people, for they deserve it the most. Well yamcha was there because he isuseless, so this form should make him some what useful, and the other 3 z fighters, chatzuo, krillin, and tien do not have hair, so they can,'t go super saiyan. The hedgehog hairbis just ssj3 hair, except spike all the back and front hair. I don't know but I thought that this form would be cool, you know.
Oh and for the kaioken looks like ssjgod, I think it does, but the kaioken hair is darker, and kaioken has black eyes, not red. But super saiyan god is the most lazyiest form that deserves to die,. Vegeta and trunks can get the new form I talked about, no goku for goku gets everything, but not this time, And gohan had mystic form. There you have it
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Why would Yamcha get a new super SAIYAN form? A super HUMAN form would make more sense.
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Jan 18 2014, 10:17 PM
Why would Yamcha get a new super SAIYAN form? A super HUMAN form would make more sense.
Then yamcha will have a super human form.
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Jan 18 2014, 10:15 PM
TheGmGoken
Jan 18 2014, 06:23 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Jan 18 2014, 03:51 PM
I guess I'll post this here as well:
If we look at the individual qualities of SSJ God and Kaioken, you'll find they're nothing alike.
Hair Color:
Kaioken: Black(Appears dark purple or pink because of the aura). SSJ God: Red.
Eye Color/Design
Kaioken: Black(Appears dark purple or pink because of the aura). SSJ God: Red with black pupils.
Aura Color/Design
Kaioken: Red or pink. SSJ God: Orange with a flame like appearance.
Honestly, people only draw a connection between the 2 because the color red is involved in both forms. I'll even post 2 images side by side so you can make a direct comparison yourself:
Spoiler: click to toggle
We already had this debate somewhere else. I honestly still think it looked like Kaioken in it's beta form, video games, and fanart. But in the actually movie it looked like False Super Saiyan with more brighter colors. But that's just my opinion.

Onto the subject:
Yamcha as a SSJ? Posted Image
The form is only used by Vegeta and Trunks? Why would that be? Sounds like fanfiction bulls*** to me. No offense. Just that there has never been a form exclusive to a single character. Especially a SSJ form. Like a hedgehog? Do you want more Sonic and DBZ comparisons? Your SSJ form sounds like something a bad fanfic of DBZ would post.
First of all, I only put there people, for they deserve it the most. Well yamcha was there because he isuseless, so this form should make him some what useful, and the other 3 z fighters, chatzuo, krillin, and tien do not have hair, so they can,'t go super saiyan. The hedgehog hairbis just ssj3 hair, except spike all the back and front hair. I don't know but I thought that this form would be cool, you know.
Oh and for the kaioken looks like ssjgod, I think it does, but the kaioken hair is darker, and kaioken has black eyes, not red. But super saiyan god is the most lazyiest form that deserves to die,. Vegeta and trunks can get the new form I talked about, no goku for goku gets everything, but not this time, And gohan had mystic form. There you have it
Chaozu is not bald. He has one string of hair.

I still don't understand what people see of similarities between Kaioken and Super Saiyan God. One is simply Goku with a red aura, and another is a complete transformation that changes hair color, eye color, and physical build. Also, it has a more orange-ish aura.
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Well he does deserve something, I mean getting blown by a saibaman, and almost dies to gero, and is useless for the rest. He deserves a form, and this will be his form.

He deserves a SAIYAN FORM. He isn't a Saiyan. He's a HUMAN. He doesn't turn SUPER SAIYAN.

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First of all, I only put there people, for they deserve it the most. Well yamcha was there because he isuseless, so this form should make him some what useful, and the other 3 z fighters, chatzuo, krillin, and tien do not have hair, so they can,'t go super saiyan. The hedgehog hairbis just ssj3 hair, except spike all the back and front hair. I don't know but I thought that this form would be cool, you know.

Since when does deserving something means you get a new form? Goku deserve to win the Tenkaichi Budokai in his 2nd appearance. But Toriyama didn't have it. It made the fans want Goku to win even more. How would a power up make Yamcha useful? Birsu is stronger than Vegetto. Seeing as they will only get stronger there is NO catching up for the humans. Chaozu has hair. Krillin doesn't have hair? Are you SERIOUS!?
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This Super Saiyan form that you made...with all due respect is dumb honestly. Why would a form go to a HUMAN. Why would a form go to those who deserve it only. That makes ZERO sense from the plot. How would you explain the form? "Those who get the form needs it the most because we're breaking the fourth wall and the fans want it to happen".

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Vegeta and trunks can get the new form I talked about, no goku for goku gets everything, but not this time, And gohan had mystic form. There you have it

So what about Goten...? Goku is the main character and he still loses to most of the villains. He doesn't get that main character rub off as much as you think. Seriously this "Form" you made sounds like the typical SSJ form that only their favorite character gets due to fanboy-ism.
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Jan 18 2014, 10:15 PM
First of all, I only put there people, for they deserve it the most. Well yamcha was there because he isuseless, so this form should make him some what useful, and the other 3 z fighters, chatzuo, krillin, and tien do not have hair, so they can,'t go super saiyan. The hedgehog hairbis just ssj3 hair, except spike all the back and front hair. I don't know but I thought that this form would be cool, you know.
Oh and for the kaioken looks like ssjgod, I think it does, but the kaioken hair is darker, and kaioken has black eyes, not red. But super saiyan god is the most lazyiest form that deserves to die,. Vegeta and trunks can get the new form I talked about, no goku for goku gets everything, but not this time, And gohan had mystic form. There you have it
Just a tip.. forget everything you learned from youtube or anywhere else, bald saiyans can most likely got super saiyan too, yamcha really doesnt deserve it, someone like Tien or Piccolo would deserve a form
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So SSJ can be stooped like their giant apes forms by cutting off hair?

good luck with ssj3, don't even get me started on 4 lol
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Jan 18 2014, 11:57 PM
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Well he does deserve something, I mean getting blown by a saibaman, and almost dies to gero, and is useless for the rest. He deserves a form, and this will be his form.

He deserves a SAIYAN FORM. He isn't a Saiyan. He's a HUMAN. He doesn't turn SUPER SAIYAN.

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First of all, I only put there people, for they deserve it the most. Well yamcha was there because he isuseless, so this form should make him some what useful, and the other 3 z fighters, chatzuo, krillin, and tien do not have hair, so they can,'t go super saiyan. The hedgehog hairbis just ssj3 hair, except spike all the back and front hair. I don't know but I thought that this form would be cool, you know.

Since when does deserving something means you get a new form? Goku deserve to win the Tenkaichi Budokai in his 2nd appearance. But Toriyama didn't have it. It made the fans want Goku to win even more. How would a power up make Yamcha useful? Birsu is stronger than Vegetto. Seeing as they will only get stronger there is NO catching up for the humans. Chaozu has hair. Krillin doesn't have hair? Are you SERIOUS!?
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This Super Saiyan form that you made...with all due respect is dumb honestly. Why would a form go to a HUMAN. Why would a form go to those who deserve it only. That makes ZERO sense from the plot. How would you explain the form? "Those who get the form needs it the most because we're breaking the fourth wall and the fans want it to happen".

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Vegeta and trunks can get the new form I talked about, no goku for goku gets everything, but not this time, And gohan had mystic form. There you have it

So what about Goten...? Goku is the main character and he still loses to most of the villains. He doesn't get that main character rub off as much as you think. Seriously this "Form" you made sounds like the typical SSJ form that only their favorite character gets due to fanboy-ism.
It is not dumb, okay. You can go on hating on my form, but I think it is great. So what if you think yamcha can't go super saiyan, just make This a super human transformation. Did you have an idea about a make up form, well you don't! Also, no one likes goten. When he is a teen, he is as stupid as bulma. Never trsins, just dates girls. He calls himself goku's son, well I call him A piece of trash. I'm am not a favorite fan of vegeta and trunks, it is just they are so awesome, and goku can get annoying some times.Also, you are right about deserving it, okay, so let's say that vegeta,trunks, And yamcha get the form because they unlocked it, or gained it for a specific task. This form is not dumb, it will be a great form. Think about the positive: white piercing aura and white eyes. Looks sick, and orange hair for a form. Hair spiked everywhere to make them feel amazing.
Everyone hates chatzuo, one speck of hair won't have a million hair with spikes. You got it wrong, all right. Goku is cool and all, but I have to deal with his stupidity for 12 seasons including gt. Dbz should get a new main character. Same character has no creativity. By the way, let me start talking trash to some od your post, and see how you like it!
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Umm if its super human why can Vegeta get it?
Trunks is half and half so I could let that slide but Vegeta is pure...
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Jan 19 2014, 02:23 AM
Umm if its super human why can Vegeta get it?
Trunks is half and half so I could let that slide but Vegeta is pure...
Vegeta gets this form with the sharing of gohan and goten and trunks power. All half human give it to vegeta, And vegeta uses this power to achieve this form
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Jan 18 2014, 10:27 PM
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Jan 18 2014, 10:15 PM
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Jan 18 2014, 06:23 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Jan 18 2014, 03:51 PM
I guess I'll post this here as well:
If we look at the individual qualities of SSJ God and Kaioken, you'll find they're nothing alike.
Hair Color:
Kaioken: Black(Appears dark purple or pink because of the aura). SSJ God: Red.
Eye Color/Design
Kaioken: Black(Appears dark purple or pink because of the aura). SSJ God: Red with black pupils.
Aura Color/Design
Kaioken: Red or pink. SSJ God: Orange with a flame like appearance.
Honestly, people only draw a connection between the 2 because the color red is involved in both forms. I'll even post 2 images side by side so you can make a direct comparison yourself:
Spoiler: click to toggle
We already had this debate somewhere else. I honestly still think it looked like Kaioken in it's beta form, video games, and fanart. But in the actually movie it looked like False Super Saiyan with more brighter colors. But that's just my opinion.

Onto the subject:
Yamcha as a SSJ? Posted Image
The form is only used by Vegeta and Trunks? Why would that be? Sounds like fanfiction bulls*** to me. No offense. Just that there has never been a form exclusive to a single character. Especially a SSJ form. Like a hedgehog? Do you want more Sonic and DBZ comparisons? Your SSJ form sounds like something a bad fanfic of DBZ would post.
First of all, I only put there people, for they deserve it the most. Well yamcha was there because he isuseless, so this form should make him some what useful, and the other 3 z fighters, chatzuo, krillin, and tien do not have hair, so they can,'t go super saiyan. The hedgehog hairbis just ssj3 hair, except spike all the back and front hair. I don't know but I thought that this form would be cool, you know.
Oh and for the kaioken looks like ssjgod, I think it does, but the kaioken hair is darker, and kaioken has black eyes, not red. But super saiyan god is the most lazyiest form that deserves to die,. Vegeta and trunks can get the new form I talked about, no goku for goku gets everything, but not this time, And gohan had mystic form. There you have it
Chaozu is not bald. He has one string of hair.

I still don't understand what people see of similarities between Kaioken and Super Saiyan God. One is simply Goku with a red aura, and another is a complete transformation that changes hair color, eye color, and physical build. Also, it has a more orange-ish aura.
All of what you said is true, but I think they look similar because whenever I see ssjgod, I compare this form to the raging blast 2 kaioken
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Ok. I'll separate your post by numbers.

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(1)It is not dumb, okay. You can go on hating on my form, but I think it is great. (2) So what if you think yamcha can't go super saiyan, just make This a super human transformation. Did you have an idea about a make up form, well you don't!

(3)Also, no one likes goten. When he is a teen, he is as stupid as bulma. Never trsins, just dates girls. He calls himself goku's son, well I call him A piece of trash. I'm am not a favorite fan of vegeta and trunks, it is just they are so awesome, and goku can get annoying some times.Also, you are right about deserving it, okay, so let's say that vegeta,trunks, And yamcha get the form because they unlocked it, or gained it for a specific task. This form is not dumb, it will be a great form. Think about the positive: white piercing aura and white eyes. Looks sick, and orange hair for a form. Hair spiked everywhere to make them feel amazing.


4. Everyone hates chatzuo, one speck of hair won't have a million hair with spikes. You got it wrong, all right. Goku is cool and all, but I have to deal with his stupidity for 12 seasons including gt. Dbz should get a new main character. Same character has no creativity. By the way, let me start talking trash to some od your post, and see how you like it!


1. I'm not hating. Your form sounds like fanfiction. Because that's what it is. A fan made it. Thus it's a fan made form. I'm just saying it's the typical fanfiction form that only the character that "deserve" gets it. That makes no sense from a plot point of view. Zuko deserves to kill his Father but from a plot point of view Aang needed to beat him. Zuko's uncle even made a comment about it. Hell honestly Vegeta or Gohan deserved to kill Boo. But from a plot point of view it doesn't work. Well maybe Gohan but not Vegeta. Also don't jump ahead of yourself. Back in my roleplay days I made two transformations and my friend Kyram made 3 or was it 4?

2. What do you mean "What if" I think Yamcha can't go Super Saiyan? He's a human. Not a Saiyan. Hence the term. SUPER SAIYAN. If you make it to a Super Human form then how can Vegeta get it? I can understand Trunks but what about Vegeta?

3. No one likes Goten? I do. That's someone. I know quite a few on Kanzenshuu that like Goten as well. Hell on Youtube Goten got some fans. Why would Yamcha and Vegeta unlock the same form? How would that even work for the plot. That's why I think your form is dumb. How is white aura a pro? Super Saiyan has white aura in the manga and the color edition of the manga. That's something we've already scene. Mystic got white aura in BoG(Despite Mystic not having aura before BoG). Base Saiyans and Humans has white auras in the anime. Nothing special.

4. I didn't comment on Chaozu's hair. But I'm guessing you mean the other post. Goku is annoying and stupid? How is he stupid? Is that why just about everyone loves Goku? If you show someone a picture of Goku and Vegeta. Who would they know first? Exactly. Even by non Dbz fans everyone knows Goku. Why are you getting offending? Why would you want to bash my post? I'm giving criticism.

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Vegeta gets this form with the sharing of gohan and goten and trunks power. All half human give it to vegeta, And vegeta uses this power to achieve this form

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Just because you get half breed's energy doesn't mean you go do what Half breeds can do. Since half breeds are HUMANS they can do Super Human stuff if Humans had a transformation. It's in their blood and cells. A Saiyan would't be able to do that. That's like saying Goku uses Kaioken and donates energy to someone and suddenly they have the Kaioken.

I do not mean to be mean. But I have a question. Do you understand how transformation works in DBZ?
A Saiyan can only do what SAIYANS are capable of doing. They can't naturally control their ki, They can't naturally sense, and they can't go "SUPER HUMAN" even if they have Half Breed's energy in them. The energy will convert into SAIYAN energy. Same goes for Humans. Humans can't go Super Saiyan. If Goku gives Krillin his ki, Krillin won't turn SSJ. He might get super strong. But he won't turn SSJ. YOU WILL NEVER EVER get this:
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Just for good time sake, which trunks? I'm assuming future trunks.
And when will they get this form?
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Jan 19 2014, 03:28 AM
Ok. I'll separate your post by numbers.

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(1)It is not dumb, okay. You can go on hating on my form, but I think it is great. (2) So what if you think yamcha can't go super saiyan, just make This a super human transformation. Did you have an idea about a make up form, well you don't!

(3)Also, no one likes goten. When he is a teen, he is as stupid as bulma. Never trsins, just dates girls. He calls himself goku's son, well I call him A piece of trash. I'm am not a favorite fan of vegeta and trunks, it is just they are so awesome, and goku can get annoying some times.Also, you are right about deserving it, okay, so let's say that vegeta,trunks, And yamcha get the form because they unlocked it, or gained it for a specific task. This form is not dumb, it will be a great form. Think about the positive: white piercing aura and white eyes. Looks sick, and orange hair for a form. Hair spiked everywhere to make them feel amazing.


4. Everyone hates chatzuo, one speck of hair won't have a million hair with spikes. You got it wrong, all right. Goku is cool and all, but I have to deal with his stupidity for 12 seasons including gt. Dbz should get a new main character. Same character has no creativity. By the way, let me start talking trash to some od your post, and see how you like it!


1. I'm not hating. Your form sounds like fanfiction. Because that's what it is. A fan made it. Thus it's a fan made form. I'm just saying it's the typical fanfiction form that only the character that "deserve" gets it. That makes no sense from a plot point of view. Zuko deserves to kill his Father but from a plot point of view Aang needed to beat him. Zuko's uncle even made a comment about it. Hell honestly Vegeta or Gohan deserved to kill Boo. But from a plot point of view it doesn't work. Well maybe Gohan but not Vegeta. Also don't jump ahead of yourself. Back in my roleplay days I made two transformations and my friend Kyram made 3 or was it 4?

2. What do you mean "What if" I think Yamcha can't go Super Saiyan? He's a human. Not a Saiyan. Hence the term. SUPER SAIYAN. If you make it to a Super Human form then how can Vegeta get it? I can understand Trunks but what about Vegeta?

3. No one likes Goten? I do. That's someone. I know quite a few on Kanzenshuu that like Goten as well. Hell on Youtube Goten got some fans. Why would Yamcha and Vegeta unlock the same form? How would that even work for the plot. That's why I think your form is dumb. How is white aura a pro? Super Saiyan has white aura in the manga and the color edition of the manga. That's something we've already scene. Mystic got white aura in BoG(Despite Mystic not having aura before BoG). Base Saiyans and Humans has white auras in the anime. Nothing special.

4. I didn't comment on Chaozu's hair. But I'm guessing you mean the other post. Goku is annoying and stupid? How is he stupid? Is that why just about everyone loves Goku? If you show someone a picture of Goku and Vegeta. Who would they know first? Exactly. Even by non Dbz fans everyone knows Goku. Why are you getting offending? Why would you want to bash my post? I'm giving criticism.

Kaioken
 
Vegeta gets this form with the sharing of gohan and goten and trunks power. All half human give it to vegeta, And vegeta uses this power to achieve this form

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Just because you get half breed's energy doesn't mean you go do what Half breeds can do. Since half breeds are HUMANS they can do Super Human stuff if Humans had a transformation. It's in their blood and cells. A Saiyan would't be able to do that. That's like saying Goku uses Kaioken and donates energy to someone and suddenly they have the Kaioken.

I do not mean to be mean. But I have a question. Do you understand how transformation works in DBZ?
A Saiyan can only do what SAIYANS are capable of doing. They can't naturally control their ki, They can't naturally sense, and they can't go "SUPER HUMAN" even if they have Half Breed's energy in them. The energy will convert into SAIYAN energy. Same goes for Humans. Humans can't go Super Saiyan. If Goku gives Krillin his ki, Krillin won't turn SSJ. He might get super strong. But he won't turn SSJ. YOU WILL NEVER EVER get this:
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You are right about everything that you have said, sometimes transformations in dbz are complex to me. For goku in being stupid, I just feel like the show should give other characters some spotlight, not just goku. Goku is awesome, so he achieved ssj1-4 and god, but this form should go to other z fighters for they achieved it. This form is confusing, so this form can be to trunks, yamcha, and gohan for all have human side while trunks and gohan and trunks get a half saiyan side. Vegeta won't get this form, but he could through A machine like ssj4 blood waves, so he can get some human blood waves in him. That'll do it. Yeah and I din't notice white aura in base, but yes in mystic form the white aura could be as shining like piccolo vs frieza. This form is dumb when you think about how some people get it. I just threw in yamcha for no one ever mentions him in anything. So only gohan, trunks, and yamcha, but vegeta can get it through a human blood vessel machine. Goten is awesome but when he gets in teenager years, I can't stand him. Also, can you tell me some of your transformations. They are probably going to be good. By The way, last sentence of the post you replied to wasn't true, I just got mad for in the past, other dbz profiles made me angry at them, So sorry
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