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| EMIYA | Jan 15 2014, 02:03 AM Post #16 |
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The biggest mistake is easily anything Vegeta does but definitely when he leads to releasing Boo because it shows that AT only uses Vegeta as a way to further a plot he has no idea how to write. It took his character development from the last arc and threw it aside. Vegeta had already shown that he was beyond selfish desires. He showed that he could fight for a cause other than his own thoughts and that there were some things (like his family and son) that were more important to him than his pride. He realized his mistake in caring only for himself and learned to care for others. So in seven years, he has kept to that. He has spent time with his family, he has trained with his family. But once Goku comes up, he loses all that development. It's like a mental disease and the moment anything with Goku comes up, Vegeta turns into a raging idiot who can't do anything more than suck Goku's throbbing ****. He refuses to learn anything about his mistakes in the past, refuses to acknowledged the insurrections he made and then t top it all off at the very end he decides that it's not his responsibility to stop Boo, it is humanities responsibility. It's pretty much selfish conceit running in a full circle. He starts out conceited and he ends up being conceited and it ends up with an absolute horrendous portrayal of a character and development that could've been done far better. In the end, Vegeta was just a plot device for AT's inability to write. Edited by EMIYA, Jan 15 2014, 02:03 AM.
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jan 15 2014, 02:19 AM Post #17 |
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Vegeta's decisions are at least in character. Vegeta may have been used to further the plot twice, but that doesn't mean he's the definition of a walking, talking plot device. Kakarot's appearance makes Vegeta realize the harsh reality that he's not himself anymore. To add on to that, he has a chance to fight him. His decisions made sense based on the fact that he's scared of losing himself, not to mention he's angered by the fact Kakarot has once again surpassed him. He only realizes too late that he prefers his Earthly life.
Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jan 15 2014, 02:25 AM.
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| bardock1990 | Jan 15 2014, 11:33 AM Post #18 |
 
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Krillin had no indication that 18 had the potential to become a good person. On the contrary, 18 blatantly told him that her purpose in life was to go kill Goku, his very best friend. And that was after 3 years of believing that the Androids were coming to destroy everybody. That makes Krillins decision worse and even more selfish. Just 1 simple press of a button and he would have saved the day, but he did not. That completely eclipses any mistakes Vegeta or Goku made. IMO. |
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| + Majin Vegeta | Jan 15 2014, 02:12 PM Post #19 |
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Krillins decision was indeed selfish and because of he's " feelings " he put the life of the planet in stake, but besides that Vegeta has made an incredible mistake to, he was a good changed Charatcer up to the Buu saga, but then he remember to become evil again take on Goku and revive a monster who could take over the universe, he tried to finish thinks up later but sadly failed to, its a shame. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 15 2014, 09:20 PM Post #20 |
 
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Krillin fell in love , you can't blame him. After all , he married with her and got a child. Let him live. Gohan got the biggest mistakes: Letting Goku die , for not defeating Cell earlier. Not training 7 years , and getting Vegeta frustated , Giving Goku a shame. Thinking to be a badass against Super Boo , and not catching the earring. |
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| tOMMY pICKLES | Jan 15 2014, 09:24 PM Post #21 |
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gohan being a big baby and letting people get killed for it |
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| Hearts | Jan 15 2014, 09:58 PM Post #22 |
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The abolishment of the most deadliest technique, The Kienzan, thats the biggest mistake imo |
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| SuperSaiyan1993 | Jan 15 2014, 10:30 PM Post #23 |
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There are many but the winner in my book is: Super Vegeta letting Semi-Cell transform. Vegeta already let someone else transform (Frieza) because of his foolish hubris. This led to his death. You would think that dying would help him learn the lesson "transformations yield an immense amount of power" At least Krillin and Goku were motivated by pseudo-rational motives such as relying on Gotenks and not wanting to harm 18. Vegeta was just stupid |
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| wolfie | Jan 15 2014, 11:00 PM Post #24 |
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And then he tops that by letting buu go It's like first time he got coky but put only him self in danger, this can be excused because it was a relatively new thing, having someone transform and freisa transformed before not thinking he could do it three more times then with cell it can be excused due to the ssj desire to fight, he got cokey yes, but all saiyans have at one point or another but buu? no reason really, he had no clue how strong this thing would be, and even said becuse kai where weak buu would be to assuming a lot, fighting a man who did evreything to help him and unlike before actively willing helped bring buu |
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| petewentz | Jan 16 2014, 06:15 AM Post #25 |
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So...love trumps the fate of the entire planet? It was selfish of him even if he knew that #18 even reciprocated those feelings. It was still selfish and an incredible mistake. Nah, I can't justify it. Luckily Gohan and Goku were there to bail him out of such a horrendous decision which is why he gets the happy ending...he could have directly saved the world in his own way by destroying her but he didn't. Selfish I tell you. Selfish. And as for her life; she's already shown herself to be a ruthless killer and showed no indication that she was anything but...at that point capital punishment isn't such a moral quandary when it deals with the fate of the planet. Everyone on it. That said, not catching the earring always pisses me off too. I could have caught that earring in that situation damn fate of the planet again...wtf Edited by petewentz, Jan 16 2014, 06:15 AM.
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 16 2014, 04:23 PM Post #26 |
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You don't know about Krillin's feelings. He is a human being. He felt in love with her , he saw a human soul in her , he just couldn't do it. She wasn't a ruthless killer , it was never shown that those Androids were ruthless , until Vegeta himself decided to fight them , when they didn't even want to kill them. Krillin did the right thing. Blame Vegeta who had the power to defeat Cell. |
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| bardock1990 | Jan 16 2014, 04:52 PM Post #27 |
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Wrong. They believed Trunks' words about them being evil, Gero told them that they were going to destroy everybody, and to top it all off they told Krillin himself that their mission was to kill a sickly Goky, the best friend he ever had. Krillin was a complete retard for following his lust and feelings for an Android who gave him many reasons to disable them. He did that instead of saving the entire planet single handidly. And I can't believe that Krillin had the nerve to criticize Vegeta afterwards. That is priceless. |
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| + Pyrus | Jan 16 2014, 04:56 PM Post #28 |
 
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Vegeta already made his mistake. It was then up to Krillin to fix it, but he screwed up too. |
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| petewentz | Jan 16 2014, 05:18 PM Post #29 |
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My point is that even if Krillin was in love, not disabling the android is selfish. Purely selfish. Not saving the world for love isn't an altruistic action...in fact doing the opposite would be selfless. Krillin falls in love and has to give that up to save the world. Would have been heroic instead we get him bailed out by Goku and Gohan AGAIN. |
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| + Clearin | Jan 16 2014, 05:28 PM Post #30 |
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Goku not killing Fat Buu when he had the chance. Why are people calling Krillin out but not Vegeta? Both are responsible for Cell becoming complete, but at least in Krillin's case it was only "He could have prevented it but didn't", in Vegeta's case he actively helped Cell, that's much worse. Edited by Clearin, Jan 16 2014, 05:30 PM.
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