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DBZ Characters Striking Strength
Topic Started: Jan 12 2014, 10:27 PM (1,277 Views)
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Hello everyone, I made this topic just for fun and because I really wanted to for some reason lol, I put a lot of effort on it, and even if it seems stupid...well at least I gave it a shot :lol:

So to begin my arguement I believe that DBZ Characters easily have the potency to destroy opponents with planet level durability, but its obvious that if they charge a full power attack to the ground, well the ground itshelf will remain untouched.


So at first we see Frieza the galactic emperor, after an amazing battle with SSJ Goku, been cut in half, and after he ate a blast right on the face, still been capable of surviving the planet Namek explosion.


Frieza Survives!


Next we see Future Trunks attacking Frieza and been able to cut Him in half! Frieza who has planet durability been cut by a supposedly mere sword.

Trunks Cuts Frieza


After we witness Frieza completly toasted, Goku comes along and he manages to amplifie he's ki into he's pinkey and sustain the same Strikes Trunks made to Frieza easily!

I would also like to add this here:

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A. Toriyama says it all comes down to 'ki', the size of it and the ability to control it. He says it includes several forms: genki, yuuki & shouki (energy, bravery & true character). You can only train your muscles to a certain point, it's 'ki' that carries you beyond that and what helped Goku come closer to being the strongest warrior in the universe.


Goku vs Trunks



After that, another point that should be noted is this: Frieza at 100% took a full power punch by SSJ Goku and was lying almost unconsciousness and coughing bloud, and he wasn't even worried for the explosion itshef, yet Goku manage to literally him cough out bloud!


Goku punches Frieza!


And finally here, one of my last proof, SSJ2 Gohan is well capable of oneshoting and popping the Cell Jrs, who are>Frieza=Planet level, and he literally oneshoted them all with mere punches.

Gohan destroys Cell Jrs!


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So after this kindly long post, i tryed to prove that DBZ Charatcers do have the potency and capacity to smash opponents with planet level durability++ to even higher levels as well! I hope I'm not against some rule, and if you guys have some other points to add then please go ahead
Thanks for reading :)
Edited by Yuno, Jan 12 2014, 10:35 PM.
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So basically around the same line as them being able to create attacks to destroy solar system level opponents, but now you just want to prove they can use their ki enhancing their physical strength to rival planet ++ level strikes and up? I agree with this,imo, and it makes logical sense as to why they are abnormally stronger later in the series but they don't destroy the planet itself around them, despite them having more power to easily dispose of Frieza. I don't see anything wrong with it...
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Their durability and strength are determined by their power output. They have planet+ to Solar System+ level durability and strength. The only reason they don't blow planets up when they punch them is because they can't exactly spread their fist to encompass the entire planet.
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Pretty good, but in the Manga, Frieza took the gut punch vastly better.

He coughed up blood, sure, but he didn't fall over and in fact retaliated almost insantly
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Pretty good, but in the Manga, Frieza took the gut punch vastly better.

He coughed up blood, sure, but he didn't fall over and in fact retaliated almost insantly
Lol, yeah but my point still stands on about there very strong strinking force, this is the next volume I'll buy anyway.
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Yeah so they couldn't punch a planet apart but can hurt planet+ level opponents. Well, they could punch a planet apart but they'd have to fly round punching it for weeks most likely it would be ridiculous.

A shorter way of explaining it I would say is that to injure someone with a physical attack you have to be close to their PL in order for your energy to be able to cut through their energy and harm their body. Like an apple with a diamond skin, need a diamond to cut through.
So their body is relatively weak but protected by a defensive aura, they are super strong of course Mr. Satan is never beating any in a base arm wrestle but they do get to a limit.
I believe USSJ type forms make your energy more volatile as well as give you more muscle mass, meaning you have much more brawn than a standard fighter but, well you all know the disadvantages. So with volatility comes greater force to "cut" through the opponents energy.


Another thing is that they have to power up in order to survive attacks, if it was all about physical strength and pure durability it would be constant but they need to power up to survive.
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Yeah so they couldn't punch a planet apart but can hurt planet+ level opponents. Well, they could punch a planet apart but they'd have to fly round punching it for weeks most likely it would be ridiculous.

A shorter way of explaining it I would say is that to injure someone with a physical attack you have to be close to their PL in order for your energy to be able to cut through their energy and harm their body. Like an apple with a diamond skin, need a diamond to cut through.
So their body is relatively weak but protected by a defensive aura, they are super strong of course Mr. Satan is never beating any in a base arm wrestle but they do get to a limit.
I believe USSJ type forms make your energy more volatile as well as give you more muscle mass, meaning you have much more brawn than a standard fighter but, well you all know the disadvantages. So with volatility comes greater force to "cut" through the opponents energy.


Another thing is that they have to power up in order to survive attacks, if it was all about physical strength and pure durability it would be constant but they need to power up to survive.
I know they could punch a planet apart, but not in oneshot indeed :)

And I see what you mean there, but they do rely on powering up from increasing there durability, strenght, speed and such without it nothing much will happen, so after this do you believe they have the potency to achieve such feat?
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This is just a physics problem.. Take some paper and have a friend hold it on the bottom and the top, punch the paper. Did the paper vaporize into thin air because of your punch? No, only a small piece got broken, did your friend behind you feel the punch even though you didnt hit him directly?, no and its the same with planets. Punches are a form of piercing power, not a wide spread attack or a long ranged attack..
I dont see yet why Ki has to be the reason they can punch through planets
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They don't have to punch though planets, rather they just have the ability to punch though fighters with planet level durability with powering up and increasing there power level :) .
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