Cell Games; Super Saiyans, FP and 'Super Perfect' Cell

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Cell Games; Super Saiyans, FP and 'Super Perfect' Cell; Gaps in power, Numbers
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+ Saiyan Paladin	Jan 12 2014, 06:42 PM Post #1
Posts: 1,920 Group: Elite Member Member #10,232 Joined: September 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Kai, Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Firefox, Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Berserk	After re-reading the manga for the Cell Games (A fanslation, but from what I've read in Herm's translations, it wasn't that far off) I'm a little bit confused as to how strong Cell, Gohan and the other Saiyans really were. When Gohan goes SSj2 and just roflstomps the Cell Juniors, Cell proceeds to go Full Power and has a lot of confidence. Then Gohan tanks his punch and just has a look on his face like "That's it?". Is there any real way to tell how much stronger Cell at FP was vs. where he was against Goku/Gohan? Everyone looked shocked when Cell went FP, but he was already using enough of his power to be stronger than everyone there but MSSj Gohan. How powerful was he exactly? Some of my numbers from how I see it; I'll use Cell @ Goku for my base point Cell Suppressed vs Goku/Gohan - 100 MSSj Goku - 90 MSSj Gohan - 115 SSj2 Gohan - 230 FP PC - 150 Now I believe Vegeta/Trunks to be MSSj at this point too MSSj Vegeta - 70 MSSj Trunks - 65 To me, Cell using his FP is more than enough to crush any of the Saiyans, but still not enough to touch SSj2 Gohan Now, SPC. How much stronger did Cell really get from his 'Zenkai'? He wrecked Vegeta with a half-hearted swing, and took half SSj2 Gohan's ki with an un-charged ki blast (Which still had a pretty big explosion) It makes it difficult for me to tell just how strong he became, considering he lost to a '50%' SSj2 Gohan So to me it'd look like this SSj2 Gohan - 230 SPC - 225 For their Kamehameha clash, Its not too clear for me. So, that is what I have, what do you think? If there's anything I'm wrong about or that could be changed, I'd appreciate the help figuring it out.



+ Majin Vegeta	Jan 12 2014, 06:49 PM Post #2
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Well to start thinks up, I have SSJ Vegeta at 50% of Gokus MSSJ powers, he was confident he could take him then and Trunks is almost there. I have Gohan over 1.2x times stronger than Goku, they were all suprised by he's power compare to Gokus I have Supressed Perfect Cell@Gohan over 1.1x times above MSSJ Gohan, and FPPC over 1.5x times above Supressed perfect Cell. I also have Zenaki Cell Rivalring SSJ2 Gohan so by numbers: SSJ Trunks-45 SSJ Vegeta-50 MSSJ Goku-100 MSSJ Gohan-120 Supressed Perfect Cell@Gohan-132 FPPC-198 SSJ2 Gohan-240 SPC-230
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


lunar2	Jan 12 2014, 07:12 PM Post #3
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	vegeta/trunks 67 goku 100 gohan 130 FP cell 150 ssj2 gohan 400 SPC 420 as for why i have FP cell so low. Chapter: 409 (DBZ 215), P8.2-4 Context: after Cell powers up Goku: “S-so we finally get to see Cell fight at full power” Kuririn: “This ki is so astounding, it’s like the entire Earth is shaking.” Gohan: “What’s the big deal?” goku's a little excited, but gohan is completely disappointed. going from 100 to 150 seems big to goku, but to someone as powerful as gohan, it's nothing. also, dabura was compared to FPC, but even a weaker ssj gohan was able to survive against him, so cell must be much closer to ssj gohan than ssj2.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


+ Saiyan Paladin	Jan 12 2014, 08:11 PM Post #4
Posts: 1,920 Group: Elite Member Member #10,232 Joined: September 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Kai, Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Firefox, Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Berserk	What kind of multiplier do you use for SSj2?



+ Majin Vegeta	Jan 12 2014, 08:12 PM Post #5
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	I used up the 2x personally, the SEG one, but normally I use a 4x times.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


lunar2	Jan 12 2014, 10:28 PM Post #6
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	a little over 3x ssj.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


+ Majin Vegeta	Jan 13 2014, 02:11 PM Post #7
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	lunar2 Jan 12 2014, 10:28 PM a little over 3x ssj. Why? Why do you think the SSJ2 multiplier is at 3x times? I believe its 4x times to be honest but I just want to see why you have it there, if you don't mind.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


lunar2	Jan 13 2014, 02:43 PM Post #8
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	because i have the ssj, ssj2, and ssj3 multipliers all the same, and yakon showed us that for saiyans of this level, ssj is between 3 and 4x base. therefore, ssj2 is between 3 and 4x ssj, and ssj3 is between 3 and 4x ssj2.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


+ Majin Vegeta	Jan 14 2014, 02:52 PM Post #9
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	That explains .But is the kili meter reliable to Judje the SSJ multipliers?
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


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