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Asura vs DBZ/GT
Topic Started: Jan 12 2014, 05:56 PM (3,005 Views)
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Nice point, but Majin Buus regeneration is considered to be a high tier type, Asuras on the other hand seems to be mid tier. And even if that's wrong if Bills can produce an attack that strong casually and not even in full power, I can't see Asura taking him on.
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As for Janemba his reality warping isn't absolute it was never shown that he can copy someone stronger than base Goku and his blade that cuts through everything couldn't cut Goku in half, his reality warping is clearly limited. Add to that that it's Super Janemba who uses the blade so his powers should be even greater but failed to cut Goku up with a direct hit.


If it wasn't shown you can't just believe assume he can't use it on a stronger opponent, because he matched Goku's own Kamehameha Wave with one that equaled the REAL one and, somewhat, scraped and scratched him. And the reason that Super Janemba's sword didn't cut Goku was because he was clearly toying with him, he only went serious at Gogeta. He could still warp your attacks right back at you regardless if you thinks they're limited or not. And he as well can regenerate.
If his reality warping was absolute he would have beat Gogeta.

Fact of the matter is Goku hid behind one of those floating sphere's which was perfectly cut, only the top line of Goku's shoulder was cut and the attack was vertical.
The only thing that blade didn't cut was Goku, because Janemba has limits.

He only shot base Goku's Kamehameha back it him there's no reason to assume he could have fired one back from anyone.
It's not fact that it is all powerful or not actually but you can't assume it is, Janemba can't beat someone with comparable strength with his powers.
This match up imo was sort of like Gohan vs Buutenks in terms of ability gap, not that big but enough to dominate, Janemba's attack couldn't kill him in one blow with that size of a difference.
I agree he was probably toying with him with the slash, but no doubt he wanted Goku's arm off and failed(else he would go for the neck or straight down the middle aiming for a kill.

If Asura was nearly the same strength as Janemba then his reality warping would have some affect but Asura is plainly not at his level.
Also Janemba is stupid even if his reality warping could work on Asura he'd be dead before he got the chance to utilize it.


Doesn't Super 17 absorb the energy from all attacks? I'm sure he takes your energy away if you hit him too so regardless of how strong a punch he absorbs all the energy put in to it.
He would have to be absorbing constantly for hours but I think if it truly has no limits he would power up enough to be able to fight back.
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Super 17 would murder Asura, he is far above mere solar system level attacks, whereas he is only at star level, also Gogeta beat him is instantly with the tremendous gap he had on Janemba so I agree with you, in order for he's ability to work he needs to be close to he's opponent.
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Jan 13 2014, 02:09 PM
Nice point, but Majin Buus regeneration is considered to be a high tier type, Asuras on the other hand seems to be mid tier. And even if that's wrong if Bills can produce an attack that strong casually and not even in full power, I can't see Asura taking him on.
I wasn't even talking about Regen. But everyone besides Bills can't even make a planet sized attack. Hell not even half the size Planet Earth, of which Destructor Asura dwarfs. Cell's solar KHH might go through him if he doesn't have enough rage, but even then the KHH wouldn't even make a big impact on the overall size of Asura. It would be like 0.1% of Asura's total body size. Which would be nothing more than a mosquito bite, to which Asura's wrath would increase.
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Doesn't really matter, Bills can pretty muxh make one so Asura is done there, now I understand what you said :p
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Doesn't really matter, Bills can pretty muxh make one so Asura is done there, now I understand what you said :p
That is if Asura's wrath doesn't dwarf Birusu's power by then. I'm sticking to my guns that the only fighters that stand a chance are the ones who can make a planet+ radius attack. Which is only one as far as I know.
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I know, if Bills starts playing games then the tables might turn up on him indeed :)
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So what does he just suddenly go planet sized with anger essentially? I think it would take him a while to get there, to be fair it's unfair to have him starting like that lol.

If Bills just played games he'd probably get there but if he went for it he could probably destroy Asura with relative ease before he got planet sized. Depends on how long they fight.

Bills is kind of a d*** I guess he could make Asura quite mad...


What happens though if Asura is the size of a planet and somebody blows up his neck? It's big but a doable size, if they have enough power they have a big canvas and any blow there would be dangerous, presumably.

EDIT Ok but full reality warping should mean that a character can do anything they want, Janemba should have been able to turn Gogeta in to a pizza but he wasn't strong enough in comparison to do anything at all, he could even multiply with reality warping and do that,
Reality warping in the movie is a result of his creation, it seems his actual reality warping abilities are more limited.
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Assuming Asura is standing still and doesn't simply fly away from the blast then it would kill him most likely. Although his neck is wider than the Earth and about a 1/5th of its height, I doubt a measly wave would get the job done.

Seeing as how Bills didn't bother to kill the Z-Fighters until Goku gave him trouble, then I'd imagine Asura would get there no sweat. Not to mention it takes Seven Trillion souls plus 7 demi-gods souls and the Mantra Reactor to house his Wrath. Add on to that we never saw him max out and that opens a whole new can of worms.

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The strange think I see here is that Bills might be the only one who can take on Asura the others such as SSJ4 Gogeta might be massively stronger but we don't have proof they have an attack strong enough to overcome the radious of the solar system, and considering Gogetas galaxy potency won't hurt Asura since he's gigantic and has regelation, then I think Bills is the only one who has a slight change here.

And I think Janembas reality warping is quite limited as well :) .
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I still haven't even viewed the DLC's yet. So there may be even more impressive shyte there.
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It's a shame that Bills never got to show any madly powerful energy techniques, I'm hoping they'll do a movie involving some tournament of the Gods then we can see just how powerful true Gods in DBZ are because Kibitoshin is just nothing.
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It's a shame that Bills never got to show any madly powerful energy techniques, I'm hoping they'll do a movie involving some tournament of the Gods then we can see just how powerful true Gods in DBZ are because Kibitoshin is just nothing.
What about an Earth sized Kienzan? lol.
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What if Shenron gave someone unlimited power? Someone like Bills.
I know he can't just kill people outright but I don't think it's been said that he can't make them have unlimited energy, if he can make them immortal why not.

Guess they could all hatch a plan to utilize that, Black Star Dragonballs could do it surely.
Unlimited power person with IT could charge an attack for years at the other side of the universe.

If they were all fighting at once and worked together, slight possibility. Would have to run away with IT though then the semi-intelligent folk would come up with plans potentially that one.
Garlic Jr. loves the Dragonballs maybe he'd suggest it.
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