Theroy about Trunks and Goten fusion

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Theroy about Trunks and Goten fusion
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 9 2014, 09:03 PM (3,221 Views)
wolfie	Jan 9 2014, 10:32 PM Post #16
Posts: 159 Group: Member Member #10,702 Joined: January 8, 2014 Gender Male	TheDoc Jan 9 2014, 10:28 PM It's on the strenght checker, that is translated directly from japanese, and it's one of the most reliable DB sources. Quote: Chapter: 204 (DBZ 10), P12.1-2 Vegeta: “At any rate, the battle power of Kakarot’s son is unusually high, even by the standards of Saiyan children.” Nappa: “Maybe his reading was wrong.” Vegeta: “No, it wasn’t wrong. Raditz really took a large amount of damage from that brat’s attack. It seems that mixing Saiyan and Earthling blood begets a powerful hybrid.” edit: Goten, Trunks and the future Trunks don't show the same power as Gohan because we don't see them in their full potential, as we see with Gohan. But Gohans was shown EVERY time they get him mad Future trunks and the other two also got mad NONE of them showed the power that Gohan used his whole life Evry fight Gohan gets in shows his power, he cant hide it, it dont "vanish" the others had plenty of chances, yet trunks, a person who lost everything, saw his master and friend die, still could not beat the andriods even with training with present day hero, he still got nothing close to what Gohan can do. When trunks first appeared he was stronger then gohan, he spent a year training (and could of spent many more before "heading" to the netting time) he could not even pass his father (admittedly that part is debatable) He got mad plenty of times durring this, even at Vegeta, and vegeta swatted him like a fly. Edited by wolfie, Jan 9 2014, 10:35 PM.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jan 9 2014, 10:34 PM Post #17
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	It shouldn't matter whether he was mad or not. The point is he has a really high for being born to a low class pure blooded Saiyajin. Honestly, 2 sources should be enough to prove half breeds are stronger, especially when one source is from the Japanese manga.
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wolfie	Jan 9 2014, 10:37 PM Post #18
Posts: 159 Group: Member Member #10,702 Joined: January 8, 2014 Gender Male	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jan 9 2014, 10:34 PM It shouldn't matter whether he was mad or not. The point is he has a really high for being born to a low class pure blooded Saiyajin. Honestly, 2 sources should be enough to prove half breeds are stronger, especially when one source is from the Japanese manga. if the manga says that krillan is stronger then ultmate gohan? guess what? its wrong its not the first, or last plot hole in the manga getting mad IS the whole thing about Gohans power, when he gets made he can tap in to the power, so should all the other hybrids if they truly get it for being hybrids, they dont. None of them EVER show any sort of rage that Gohan has. and its not something that you can "stop" either so there is no way they can have it and not show it. Not once dose anyone but Vegeta, a person who knows nothing about humans at the time, make an educated guess as to why Gohan may be as strong as he is, normaly your right, him saying it would be proof, unless every single other thing in the whole book disproves this When someone says something, you take it as proof unless otherwise shown to be untrue. its shown plenty times by all three of the others getting made and NOT showing anything Gohan did when he got mad. Edited by wolfie, Jan 9 2014, 10:41 PM.



Topographic Oceans	Jan 9 2014, 10:45 PM Post #19
Posts: 1,788 Group: Member Member #10,681 Joined: January 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Action Comics Favourite Manga Detective Comics	Yes, the manga has plot holes. Plenty of them. But there is not contradicting the fact that hybrids are stronger. Goten and Trunks had an abnormally big fighting abilty for their age, even if they didn't get rage boosts like Gohan. Why would Gohan have higher potential than the other hybrids?
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wolfie	Jan 9 2014, 10:56 PM Post #20
Posts: 159 Group: Member Member #10,702 Joined: January 8, 2014 Gender Male	TheDoc Jan 9 2014, 10:45 PM Yes, the manga has plot holes. Plenty of them. But there is not contradicting the fact that hybrids are stronger. Goten and Trunks had an abnormally big fighting abilty for their age, even if they didn't get rage boosts like Gohan. Why would Gohan have higher potential than the other hybrids? Because he was "special" every time he got it unlocked, everyone who talked about it made it clear his was one of a kind In other words, he was "born with it" not cause of being a hybrid but just cause he was special. maybe for being goku's kid, maybe cause its just luck of the draw Goten and kid trunks have that yes, but thats with having three of the strongest pepole train and with you, vegeta gave trunks hard training in 50X+ gravity Goten had goha to train him, a person with high potential, as we seen clearly, the stronger your teacher is the faster you grow Gohan surpassed Piccolo many times during his life, gohan and goten never supassed their teachers they just got a boost by being taught by ssj alredy, gohan how ever had no such boost at first, and he was still sky rocketing power level wise Even if it IS true, why are gohan and trunks SO much more powerful then gohan ever was? Why dose Gohans full power have to relate to other hibryds? Edited by wolfie, Jan 9 2014, 11:02 PM.



Topographic Oceans	Jan 9 2014, 11:06 PM Post #21
Posts: 1,788 Group: Member Member #10,681 Joined: January 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Action Comics Favourite Manga Detective Comics	In fact, Gohan only started training Goten before the Budokai. Gohan didn't even know that he could also turn into a Super Saiyan. Until that point, Goten was only trained by Chichi, so his power is not related only to his training, it is something inherent to all the hybrids. They have more potential than the pure Saiyans, that have more will to train. Also, there's no way to know how powerful Goten and Trunks could become. They're still weaker than their masters (Gohan, Goku, Vegeta) in EoZ, but it's stated that they didn't improve because they were to lazy to train (i guess that this is also an inherent trait for the hybrids). edit: Why wouldn't Gohan's power realate to the other hybrids? There's nothing stating that they have different potentials. Edited by Topographic Oceans, Jan 9 2014, 11:16 PM.
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wolfie	Jan 9 2014, 11:15 PM Post #22
Posts: 159 Group: Member Member #10,702 Joined: January 8, 2014 Gender Male	TheDoc Jan 9 2014, 11:06 PM In fact, Gohan only started training Goten before the Budokai. Gohan didn't even know that he could also turn into a Super Saiyan. Until that point, Goten was only trained by Chichi, so his power is not related only to his training, it is something inherent to all the hybrids. They have more potential than the pure Saiyans, that have more will to train. Also, there's no way to know how powerful Goten and Trunks could become. They're still weaker than their masters (Gohan, Goku, Vegeta) in EoZ, but it's stated that they didn't improve because they were to lazy to train (i guess that this is also an inherent trait fotr the hybrids). Your right about gotten EXCEPT he was trained/spared/played with Trunks, who had 50x gravity traning by Vegeta. The fact is end of the day it simply is not shown Either Gohan power is his own, or Gohan power was not as strong as the others. Goten was untrained according to you, surpassed Gohan in less then... what six years of life? maybe two years of any sort of training Gohan on the other hand used his power (The only person who is EVER stated to have this power, Vegeta never says it about any other, and its never shown) many times and it still took him multiples battles and years of training to do so So either Gohan = a weak hybrid, except he is not, he is powerful or power has nothing to do with being hybird, the answer is clear I'm not saying hybrids dont have SOME power, just that Gohans power is NOT hybird power, its his own special power, he surpassed them not because of being a hybrid but being one of a kind Another point is Gohan HAD to have his power "untapped" trunks and goten did not. Edited by wolfie, Jan 9 2014, 11:17 PM.



Topographic Oceans	Jan 9 2014, 11:22 PM Post #23
Posts: 1,788 Group: Member Member #10,681 Joined: January 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Action Comics Favourite Manga Detective Comics	It could be that Goten and Trunks had even bigger potential than Gohan, at least according to that Daizenshuu entry PrinceOfTheSaiyajins posted earlier. But what really matters is that all hybrids, in some way or another, are shown to have more potential than the other Saiyans, no exception.
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wolfie	Jan 9 2014, 11:27 PM Post #24
Posts: 159 Group: Member Member #10,702 Joined: January 8, 2014 Gender Male	TheDoc Jan 9 2014, 11:22 PM It could be that Goten and Trunks had even bigger potential than Gohan, at least according to that Daizenshuu entry PrinceOfTheSaiyajins posted earlier. But what really matters is that all hybrids, in some way or another, are shown to have more potential than the other Saiyans, no exception. I can agree they START out stronger, getting big boosts, but my main point is Gohans power is NEVER shown to be the same as the others but i also agure that had a lot to do with their fathers being ssjs already Gohans power is fulled by anger, goten, and trunks where just "getting a lot stronger" no anger Gohans ultimate form has nothing to do with being a hybrid, Vegeta saw that and assumed it was true for all half brids, none of them show that power ever. and imo goten and trunks cant touch Gohan, ever they went ssj1 fast, gohan was getting boosts and power that goten and trunks never get, even when they had chances to How do you feel about future trunks? he IS an exception, he never once shows any higher chance (Which sucks cause he is my fav) Edited by wolfie, Jan 9 2014, 11:29 PM.



Topographic Oceans	Jan 9 2014, 11:36 PM Post #25
Posts: 1,788 Group: Member Member #10,681 Joined: January 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Action Comics Favourite Manga Detective Comics	It's hard to explain why present Trunks got so strong so fast and future Trunks didn't. One could argue that it is because present Trunks was trained by Vegeta, but then again, Goten was trained by someone ridiculously weaker than Vegeta and wasn't that far behind Trunks. It's probably a plot hole.
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Hearts	Jan 9 2014, 11:44 PM Post #26
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	TheDoc Jan 9 2014, 11:36 PM It's hard to explain why present Trunks got so strong so fast and future Trunks didn't. One could argue that it is because present Trunks was trained by Vegeta, but then again, Goten was trained by someone ridiculously weaker than Vegeta and wasn't that far behind Trunks. It's probably a plot hole. whos to say that the first 7 years of Gotens life, he didnt get trained by Gohan?



Topographic Oceans	Jan 9 2014, 11:53 PM Post #27
Posts: 1,788 Group: Member Member #10,681 Joined: January 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Action Comics Favourite Manga Detective Comics	After Goten transforms into a Super Saiyan for the first time (the first time shown on the manga, i mean), Gohan asks how he got this far. Goten says something in the line "While you were studiying, mom was training me". Also, when Gohan first asked Goten to throw the rocks at him, he urderestimated Goten's power. One should expect that if they trained together, Gohan would at least know how strong could Goten throw a rock. I still have my point that hybrids are stronger, tough. There's much more evidence in favor of it than against. Edited by Topographic Oceans, Jan 9 2014, 11:59 PM.
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* Ketchup Revenge	Jan 10 2014, 12:53 AM Post #28
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	This is one of the biggest pet peeves of mine about the fandom. Why do people always seem to believe that anyone with Saiyan genes tends to favor Saiyans genetically? Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Bra all have just as many human genes as Saiyan genes. But why is Bra always considered (by some fans) to be less Saiyan than the other three? However, Pan is considered even more Saiyan than Bra, even though she doesn't have as much heritage as Bra does.
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wolfie	Jan 10 2014, 01:13 AM Post #29
Posts: 159 Group: Member Member #10,702 Joined: January 8, 2014 Gender Male	Ketchupis Ultionis Jan 10 2014, 12:53 AM This is one of the biggest pet peeves of mine about the fandom. Why do people always seem to believe that anyone with Saiyan genes tends to favor Saiyans genetically? Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Bra all have just as many human genes as Saiyan genes. But why is Bra always considered (by some fans) to be less Saiyan than the other three? However, Pan is considered even more Saiyan than Bra, even though she doesn't have as much heritage as Bra does. I think its more of the fact that they where raised away form their saiyan heritage (less fighting) and just they never started training, they may even lose their potential if they don't train Genes only get you so far, just if you do nothing they can end up being to late.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jan 10 2014, 01:19 AM Post #30
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Ok, I still don't see any reason why Gotenks would lose his human genes if he were to fuse. Human genes make him stronger, and he still has partially purple hair. A pure blooded Saiyajin can only have straight black or brown hair.
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