Characters becoming useless, a bad thing?

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Characters becoming useless, a bad thing?
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Muyasuki	Jan 13 2014, 09:39 PM Post #31
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	Honestly, the re-emergence of the Kaioken would have worked wonders here (at least for the humans, Piccolo would have become way too powerful with it). Piccolo though was the most glaring example of a character who never should have not fallen to the wayside.



Topographic Oceans	Jan 13 2014, 09:45 PM Post #32
Posts: 1,788 Group: Member Member #10,681 Joined: January 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Action Comics Favourite Manga Detective Comics	Never tought about it, but it would be great to give Kaioken to the humans. They probably wouldn't defeat the villains, but they could at least help the plot adavance.
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No. 20	Jan 14 2014, 12:59 AM Post #33
Posts: 81 Group: Member Member #9,389 Joined: April 17, 2013	The entire Namek saga Krillin basically did everything, so he was far from utterly useless to that point. He puts up a good fight in the Ginyu arc and even manages to cut 2nd form Freeza's tail off, which I regard as an accomplishment for a human. Then there is the utter badassery that is Tien in Cell saga... I love the humans, and some of my favorite parts of the series is when they are totally outclassed yet still manage to be relevant.



+ Majin Vegeta	Jan 14 2014, 03:00 PM Post #34
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Muyasuki Jan 13 2014, 09:39 PM Honestly, the re-emergence of the Kaioken would have worked wonders here (at least for the humans, Piccolo would have become way too powerful with it). Piccolo though was the most glaring example of a character who never should have not fallen to the wayside. It would be great and it will also make sense. They did travel to Kaio-Samas world and they didn't learn it after remaining there for such a long time, this would be logical and cool, but they didn't introduce it either. And to be honest even with Kaioken I can't see the humans be useful power wise in the Cell arc at least, even with that.
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Muyasuki	Jan 14 2014, 11:12 PM Post #35
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	Vegeta SSj4 Jan 14 2014, 03:00 PM Muyasuki Jan 13 2014, 09:39 PM Honestly, the re-emergence of the Kaioken would have worked wonders here (at least for the humans, Piccolo would have become way too powerful with it). Piccolo though was the most glaring example of a character who never should have not fallen to the wayside. It would be great and it will also make sense. They did travel to Kaio-Samas world and they didn't learn it after remaining there for such a long time, this would be logical and cool, but they didn't introduce it either. And to be honest even with Kaioken I can't see the humans be useful power wise in the Cell arc at least, even with that. I don't think they were so far behind the base Saiyans that the Kaioken wouldn't have made them useful. Especially with Krillin since one of the first things he makes mention of is that he would be more confident in fighting the Androids if he could turn into a Super Saiyan as well. Granted, this would also heavily depend on the Super Saiyan multiplier



FollowtheLeader	Jan 14 2014, 11:46 PM Post #36
Posts: 1,653 Group: Member Member #7,064 Joined: December 12, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Manga Berserk	Of course it's a bad thing! f*! It went from the "Z Fighters" to "Goku. and his less important friends." f*ing hell! And of course the only characters who are important are the white skinned, blonde haired, and relatively blue eyed members of the "strongest race", as illustrated by a Japanese man.



Muyasuki	Jan 15 2014, 03:36 AM Post #37
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	FollowtheLeader Jan 14 2014, 11:46 PM Of course it's a bad thing! f*! It went from the "Z Fighters" to "Goku. and his less important friends." f*ing hell! And of course the only characters who are important are the white skinned, blonde haired, and relatively blue eyed members of the "strongest race", as illustrated by a Japanese man. This just reminded me of something else that would have helped. More actual group fights rather than one on ones. Actual team work would have helped.



+ Majin Vegeta	Jan 15 2014, 02:10 PM Post #38
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Muyasuki Jan 14 2014, 11:12 PM Vegeta SSj4 Jan 14 2014, 03:00 PM Muyasuki Jan 13 2014, 09:39 PM Honestly, the re-emergence of the Kaioken would have worked wonders here (at least for the humans, Piccolo would have become way too powerful with it). Piccolo though was the most glaring example of a character who never should have not fallen to the wayside. It would be great and it will also make sense. They did travel to Kaio-Samas world and they didn't learn it after remaining there for such a long time, this would be logical and cool, but they didn't introduce it either. And to be honest even with Kaioken I can't see the humans be useful power wise in the Cell arc at least, even with that. I don't think they were so far behind the base Saiyans that the Kaioken wouldn't have made them useful. Especially with Krillin since one of the first things he makes mention of is that he would be more confident in fighting the Androids if he could turn into a Super Saiyan as well. Granted, this would also heavily depend on the Super Saiyan multiplier Considering in Biu saga we are arguing that base saiyans might be stronger than Piccolo in base, at least in the Buu saga they would be useless, now on Cell arc maybe in some few instances they could prove to be useful, but not anything special something like Piccolo I think.
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