What is the Unit of Measurement for Power Levels?

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What is the Unit of Measurement for Power Levels?
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 6 2014, 08:10 PM (1,116 Views)
Yuli Ban	Jan 6 2014, 08:10 PM Post #1
Posts: 386 Group: Member Member #9,907 Joined: August 14, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon Ball; One Piece; GitS; AKIRA; Yuyu Hakusho; Gunnm; FLCL What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragon Ball; FLCL; Berserk; Durarara!!	Posting the silly thread made me think: what exactly do they use to measure a PL with? A power level of two? Two what? Please lend me a moment to use correct grammar: with what do they use to measure PL? Edited by Yuli Ban, Jan 6 2014, 11:13 PM.
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Instant Transmission	Jan 6 2014, 08:15 PM Post #2
Posts: 884 Group: Probation Member #10,599 Joined: December 19, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime you know what, this changes alot.. so fuck it What Browser do you use? Chrome	Energy level. Energy output at current moment. Aura ( makes no sense but still an option) Something like that (No.2)
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jan 6 2014, 10:26 PM Post #3
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	It's just a simple energy to units measurement. I don't think anything specific like watts or joules are involved.
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* Crashbreaka	Jan 6 2014, 11:26 PM Post #4
Captain Oblivious Posts: 6,888 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,771 Joined: June 14, 2012 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Onepunch-Man, Gurren Lagann What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Seven Deadly Sins, Food Wars, Onepunch-Man	Yeah I think it's just a measurement of ki output. I don't think anyone ever referenced it to what exactly it was measuring, other than their 'power'.



Yuli Ban	Jan 7 2014, 12:00 AM Post #5
Posts: 386 Group: Member Member #9,907 Joined: August 14, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon Ball; One Piece; GitS; AKIRA; Yuyu Hakusho; Gunnm; FLCL What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragon Ball; FLCL; Berserk; Durarara!!	Babidi had kilis did he not?
	Quote: Think of it as how a Saiyan's entire outfit can change if they go Super Saiyan. So....His shoes are Super Saiyan 4? Here's the the glorious position of being part of DBZ forums' prestiged Member #OVER 9000 club.


* Ketchup Revenge	Jan 7 2014, 04:14 AM Post #6
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	He did, but what a "unit" of one PL point is for scouter measurement is never explained. Going against my own rule of not using real-life physics to explain things in Dragon Ball, I've always considered a PL unit as what force you are able to exert in either Joules or Newtons. What we need to remember is that a scouter measurement isn't a simple measurement of ki, it's the measurement of your capabilities with that ki. The reason we know this is because Goku and Piccolo were able to increase the power of their attacks simply by concentrating their ki (as evidenced by Raditz's readings). This states that there's not more ki going into those attacks to make them stronger, but the existing ki is condensed so that it releases a more powerful burst (and reads higher on a measuring device). Both Newtons and Joules are measurements of force in real-life physics. I don't really know what either of these are exactly, so I'm not even going to attempt to explain it. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Jan 7 2014, 04:20 AM.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jan 7 2014, 04:58 AM Post #7
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	I always assumed they, the people who made scouters, took an amount of energy assigned a value of 1 to said amount.
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bloodstained euphy	Jan 7 2014, 03:31 PM Post #8
Posts: 842 Group: Member Member #7,357 Joined: February 25, 2012 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Code Geas, Dinosaur King, Sword Art Online, One Punch Man, Danganronpa What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	It's probably baby Raditz



Instant Transmission	Jan 7 2014, 04:19 PM Post #9
Posts: 884 Group: Probation Member #10,599 Joined: December 19, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime you know what, this changes alot.. so fuck it What Browser do you use? Chrome	Quote: What we need to remember is that a scouter measurement isn't a simple measurement of ki, it's the measurement of your capabilities with that ki. The reason we know this is because Goku and Piccolo were able to increase the power of their attacks simply by concentrating their ki (as evidenced by Raditz's readings). This states that there's not more ki going into those attacks to make them stronger, but the existing ki is condensed so that it releases a more powerful burst (and reads higher on a measuring device). Its measured by ki out put again. You proved it in that paragraph, just your result was changed. When piccolo charged his attack on raditz his ki out put was higher than just powerin up and melee fighting. Its A massive ki iut out concentrated to make mire damage. Take vegetas sucide on buu for an example. That was NOT concentrated, he just went Boom. If he took his time to make a Ball made of all that energy ( Lets say a HUGE big bang attack) then buu would never even fight Goku. gotenks would probably never exist and vegeta would be dead.( Buu too')
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* Ketchup Revenge	Jan 7 2014, 05:22 PM Post #10
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Instant Transmission Jan 7 2014, 04:19 PM Quote: What we need to remember is that a scouter measurement isn't a simple measurement of ki, it's the measurement of your capabilities with that ki. The reason we know this is because Goku and Piccolo were able to increase the power of their attacks simply by concentrating their ki (as evidenced by Raditz's readings). This states that there's not more ki going into those attacks to make them stronger, but the existing ki is condensed so that it releases a more powerful burst (and reads higher on a measuring device). Its measured by ki out put again. You proved it in that paragraph, just your result was changed. When piccolo charged his attack on raditz his ki out put was higher than just powerin up and melee fighting. Its A massive ki iut out concentrated to make mire damage. Take vegetas sucide on buu for an example. That was NOT concentrated, he just went Boom. If he took his time to make a Ball made of all that energy ( Lets say a HUGE big bang attack) then buu would never even fight Goku. gotenks would probably never exist and vegeta would be dead.( Buu too') You can increase your over-all power through increasing your ki, but that's not the only way to do it, and that's where the scouters can't tell the difference. In the context of what a Scouter measurement is supposed to be, the scouter readings of Goku and Piccolo when they were charging was wrong, and it was up to Raditz to interpret why the reading was wrong. And he did. The scouter was indeed designed to read "ki amount", but fighters like Goku and Piccolo who have advanced ki knowledge and know how to amp attacks either through concentrating, or increasing their ki all together, are extremely rare to come by. The scouter's not designed to give accurate measurements of people who can concentrate ki into points because fighters with those skills are practically unheard of. Raditz specifically states that Goku and Piccolo were increasing their power by concentrating their ki into points. That's not saying there's more ki in those attacks than one that's 1/3 as strong or so, but it's stating that the configuration of the ki actually influences the reading as well. In this case, the ki is concentrated. It's the same concept as just scooping up some snow in your hand and throwing it at someone. If you take that same amount of snow, and pack it into a ball, the force it exerts when you throw it at the same rate of speed is a lot higher, even though there's the exact same amount of snow. This is what happens with these ki attacks. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Jan 7 2014, 05:25 PM.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Jan 12 2014, 07:46 PM Post #11
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Energy or ki output IMO
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