"Dbz has no story". What?

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"Dbz has no story". What?
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~~gogito~~	Jan 1 2014, 09:41 AM Post #16
Saiyan Posts: 115 Group: Suspended Member #10,539 Joined: November 27, 2013 Gender Male	petewentz Dec 31 2013, 05:58 PM I think it has a "story" but it's very thin is the problem. It's a story aimed at kids who obviously won't question character motivations and the character archetypes are very black and white. Think about Cell; this is a purely artificial biological being. Instead of just going "I'm gonna destroy everything" a more competent sci-fi writer might have him question what is the meaning of life, what does it mean to have sentience and what is the value of life. I think something created artificially would value life more than Cell does who is evil just for evil's sake. Think of Blade Runner and Roy. Just my opinion though they did do that, with android 16.



Yuli Ban	Jan 1 2014, 10:16 AM Post #17
Posts: 386 Group: Member Member #9,907 Joined: August 14, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon Ball; One Piece; GitS; AKIRA; Yuyu Hakusho; Gunnm; FLCL What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragon Ball; FLCL; Berserk; Durarara!!	Compared to other anime, nope. Then again in Naruto, Bleach, all them, what constitutes a deep story? Flashbacks, flashbacks, flashbacks, angst empty emo angst that'll eventually be used in a Linkin Park/Skillet/Three Days Grace AMV. I kinda rather DB's flimsy plot.There is virtually no depth, though it can get deep (Frieza saga, History of Trunks, Android 8, Wrath of the Dragon) because it knows it doesn't need to be.
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* Crashbreaka	Jan 1 2014, 10:24 AM Post #18
Captain Oblivious Posts: 6,888 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,771 Joined: June 14, 2012 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Onepunch-Man, Gurren Lagann What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Seven Deadly Sins, Food Wars, Onepunch-Man	Personally I think the biggest depth to Dragon Ball is some of the ideas Toriyama threw in with the whole 'ki' aspect and stuff like that. The story itself doesn't have much.



Andro	Jan 1 2014, 08:54 PM Post #19
Posts: 1,854 Group: Member Member #7,941 Joined: July 13, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None	DB has no plot whatsoever as to how Toriyama sees it. I also think it has no plot compared to some other series. It was made and adapted purely for entertainment. If many fans see some sort of heavy plot in it, that's their perspective. It's not wrong to say it has plot nor is it wrong to say it has no plot.



Hearts	Jan 1 2014, 09:14 PM Post #20
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	The biggest plot was Namek saga.. But that doesnt matter, the strength of Dragon Ball is the character development, how many other animes or mangas has had more than one time skip? Dragon Ball shows the story of a young kid (12 years old?) growing into his twenties, thirties, fourties and even fifties.. Not a single show does this



tOMMY pICKLES	Jan 1 2014, 09:27 PM Post #21
Yare Yare Daze Posts: 3,780 Group: Humanoid Typhoon Member #8,557 Joined: November 13, 2012 Gender Other Country Canada Favourite Anime Cowbow Bebop. Trigun. Samurai Champloo. JJBA. FMA:B. What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk, JJBA	Hearts Jan 1 2014, 09:14 PM how many other animes or mangas has had more than one time skip? Pretty sure YuYuHakusho had 3 or 4 I think one of them was a year and the last one was 3 years. but as for dbzs plot its kinda always different and small, frieza you could say its about goku really coming to be with his saiyan ways after vegetas death and avenging them while fighting for all his other loved ones. cell saga about gohans true power and learning to not be afraid of his own power and stop letting his friends die? idn just how I kinda looked at it. yuyuhakusho for kinda the same type anime I would say has a bigger plot(still not really that big 2 of the main villians just want someone stronger to kill them) but yah if yer looking for a solid plot dbz is not the right place to look, id go watch fma:b



+ Emmeth	Jan 1 2014, 09:51 PM Post #22
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	DBZ has no plot, just like romantic comedies have no plot. Girl meets boy Girl falls in love with boy and visa versa Boy does something stupid Girl gets mad Girl and boy kiss and make up at the end of movie.
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Hearts	Jan 1 2014, 09:57 PM Post #23
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	Emmeth Jan 1 2014, 09:51 PM DBZ has no plot, just like romantic comedies have no plot. Girl meets boy Girl falls in love with boy and visa versa Boy does something stupid Girl gets mad Girl and boy kiss and make up at the end of movie. You should have ended that at "Girl meets boy"



Rock_The_Dragon	Jan 1 2014, 10:31 PM Post #24
Posts: 83 Group: Member Member #7,565 Joined: April 24, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	It's threads like this that make me question why I should love DBZ as much as I do if it apparently is abysmal in every category that makes for a good story. Edited by Rock_The_Dragon, Jan 1 2014, 10:31 PM.



petewentz	Jan 1 2014, 10:31 PM Post #25
suiteheart Posts: 283 Group: Member Member #10,603 Joined: December 20, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Mononoke-Hime What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jan 1 2014, 07:54 AM Goku's philosophy is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from basic the basic good guy . So how about instead of just declaring that, you provide some reasons you feel he is FAAAAAR from the basic good guy because from what I see, that's what he is. He always does the right thing, he is very naive and always makes the correct moral decision. Granted, Goku is one of my favorite characters BECAUSE of this, it's just he lacks depth most heroes have. Sure he's got the whole "saiyan ruthless killer past forgotten" angle but once that's forgotten, it's all good guy there. In fact, him killing Grandpa Gohan isn't even him, he has lost all control and the guilt he SHOULD feel over that is extremely narrow. He literally realizes it was him who killed his grandfather and then goes "Oh, I'll AVENGE YOU!"(paraphrase) And yea, Gogito was right about #16 I forgot about him but IIRC his development is still very limited though I haven't really read through that section of the manga extensively.
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Kienzan	Jan 1 2014, 10:44 PM Post #26
+ Posts: 757 Group: Member Member #8,751 Joined: December 29, 2012 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Neon Genesis Evangelion, FMA:B, Hunter x Hunter 2011, Baccano!, Ghost in the Shell What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece, Fullmetal Alchemist, Dragonball	DB has a better plot than DBZ.



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