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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 31 2013, 05:30 PM Post #1 |
 
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People say dbz has no story. "dbz is just new villain comes, defeats them, next one" What do you guys think when people say dbz has no story? Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Dec 31 2013, 05:41 PM.
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| Kienzan | Dec 31 2013, 05:35 PM Post #2 |
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A lot of it follows this formula: Villain comes Villain is stronger than everyone Character (usually Goku) gets power up Character beats bad guy. Happens in Piccolo Daimao arc, Saiyan arc, Freeza arc (a few times in this one, lol), kind of in the android arc, cell arc and partly in the Buu arc. Its not as obvious in the Buu arc, but its still there. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 31 2013, 05:37 PM Post #3 |
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But do you think dbz has no actual plot? |
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| Kienzan | Dec 31 2013, 05:47 PM Post #4 |
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yeah, I don't think it has much of a plot. This became very apparent to me when I got into other anime like One Piece an FMA. This is a summary of the DBZ plot; 1) Villain comes to destroy the planet for no apparent reason. Or occasionally to take it over 2) Good guy saves the day Repeated every arc. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Dec 31 2013, 05:49 PM Post #5 |
 
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DB had a real story. Up until Frieza Arc ,there was a nice story. |
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| petewentz | Dec 31 2013, 05:58 PM Post #6 |
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I think it has a "story" but it's very thin is the problem. It's a story aimed at kids who obviously won't question character motivations and the character archetypes are very black and white. Think about Cell; this is a purely artificial biological being. Instead of just going "I'm gonna destroy everything" a more competent sci-fi writer might have him question what is the meaning of life, what does it mean to have sentience and what is the value of life. I think something created artificially would value life more than Cell does who is evil just for evil's sake. Think of Blade Runner and Roy. Just my opinion though |
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| ObsessiveFanBoy | Dec 31 2013, 06:18 PM Post #7 |
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You know what, that could pretty much be the formula for every anime. |
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| Kienzan | Dec 31 2013, 06:21 PM Post #8 |
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Nah, it really isn't. Even in battle shounens, theres a lot more going on. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 31 2013, 06:23 PM Post #9 |
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I don't think it works for every anime but it does for a lot. I think bleach is another series that formula works in |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jan 1 2014, 06:00 AM Post #10 |
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DBZ has a story, it's just not terribly deep. DBZ focuses more on philosophy and characters than the story, which I think is a good thing. The story, if you're looking for a general synopsis, consists of a baby boy being sent to Earth on a mission to destroy the planets inhabitants right as his home world is being destroyed along with his rebellious father. The boy is found and loses all memory of what he is and what he was supposed to do. The boy grows, making many friends and enemies along his journeys until he is eventually faced with the reality of his dark past in the form of his older brother. The boy, now a man, has to take on the remnants of his home world because they want to use the dragon balls for their evil desires. He loses many of his friends in the process and is forced to travel to another planet to restore his friends. There he encounters the man who is responsible for the deaths of many races, most notably his own. It's up to him to defeat him, and in doing so, unlock the powers of the Super Saiyan. After all that is said and done, Goku is met by a young boy from the future who warns of him of 2 creations that will leave the Earth in ruin. The man behind these 2 creations is an enemy Goku made in his childhood. Goku and his friends are forced to combat this new threat, only to have another of Dr Gero's creations, from an alternate timeline, absorb the new threats making a new super threat that Goku's son must defeat. The mantle of Earth's "protector", I use this term loosely because Goku isn't exactly a super hero, is now passed to Gohan. Gohan slacks for 7 years and ultimately isn't suited for the role his father had left him. Goku is allowed to return to Earth for one day, but it is ultimate ruined by a being who, in the past, killed off most of the highest gods in the god hierarchy, at this point anyway. The last survivor of those gods travels to Earth in an attempt to stop a wizard from releasing this really powerful being. He and the Z-Warriors ultimately fail, and in the end Gohan is replaced by Goku and Goku saves the day with an attack fueled by the very planet he is trying to save. Years later, he takes on the reincarnated form of Buu as his pupil so that one day he will be his replacement. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jan 1 2014, 06:02 AM.
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| * Crashbreaka | Jan 1 2014, 06:04 AM Post #11 |
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Every story would logically have a story. With Dragon Ball it just isn't very detailed IMO. |
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| Copy_Ninja | Jan 1 2014, 06:09 AM Post #12 |
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There isn't really a central plot to the series, which I think is what most people mean when they say DBZ has no story. The characters carry over from arc to arc and you get some themes and growth that go with it and things, but there's no central plot thread that ties it all together. They aren't fighting some big bad throughout the whole series or anything like that and the story arcs are generally self contained (though some arcs do lead in to each other, Saiyan Arc goes straight to Namek for example). So there is a story, but it's more fractured I guess you'd say. That isn't necessarily a bad thing either it depends on the execution or just how you view it. |
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| EMIYA | Jan 1 2014, 06:17 AM Post #13 |
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The story is very basic and doesn't have much flow to it and is really no different from the DBZ movies. It's nothing more than mindless entertainment and every so often you might development and there but not much and most of the development probably went into early Dragon ball and the last one probably being Piccolo at the end of the Saiyan Arc and then it's several arcs later when Vegeta finally gets some development (one that gets screwed up honestly between the Cell and Boo Arc) but beyond this, nothing new. Villain comes in, villain is amazingly strong, villain can transform, new transformation for Saiyans, finally defeat villain. It did at least try to build up some stuff like the SSJ and Gohan's eventual transformation into SSj2, but overall it was incredibly basic in its premise. I'd believe had Dragon Ball came out later during the same time as Shounen mangas we're aware of like One Piece, Bleach and Naruto, Dragon Ball wouldn't have been as popular as it is now. Mangas these days really take closer strides in the details of story and characterization and when you try to skim over these things just to have action (take Bleach for example) the ratings begin to fall. |
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| petewentz | Jan 1 2014, 07:20 AM Post #14 |
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I have to disagree with the philosophy aspect of Dragonball. It is not very philosophical. Character archetypes are black and white; Goku is the epitome of "good" even showing mercy on the worst of villains while Cell and Frieza are simply very evil. Then we get some minor growth in some of the supporting characters, like Tien and Piccolo though once good they are wholly good. Vegeta is really the deepest character in Dragonball and even his character motivations are pretty apparent. I fail to see any philosophical element to Dragonball. Even the most philosophical of plot lines in modern sci-fi the androids are given very primitive development. They're actually not androids at all, but cyborgs. This robs them of any deeper meaning behind their existence. The one character who SHOULD be philosophical is Cell and well he's extremely one dimensional. I could be missing something in the subtext of the story but I personally don't see it as any sort of philosophical study. What themes are there? What subtext? Redemption, coming of age in the case of Gohan(Goku's coming of age story is non-existent he remains the same generally throughout the series) I fail to see it. Maybe you could illuminate me. Edited by petewentz, Jan 1 2014, 07:20 AM.
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jan 1 2014, 07:54 AM Post #15 |
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Goku's philosophy is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from basic the basic good guy  .
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