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Raditz power level?; 1200 or 1500?
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Dec 29 2013, 05:40 PM Post #1
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Nappa said its 1200 and Daiz. says it's 1500. Which one is it?
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SSJ	Dec 29 2013, 05:42 PM Post #2
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Neither. It's probably around 1300, since Raditz rivals a Saibaman, but was stated to be more powerful.



Kienzan	Dec 29 2013, 05:51 PM Post #3
+ Posts: 757 Group: Member Member #8,751 Joined: December 29, 2012 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Neon Genesis Evangelion, FMA:B, Hunter x Hunter 2011, Baccano!, Ghost in the Shell What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece, Fullmetal Alchemist, Dragonball	Right now, I'm seeing it as being closer to the Daiz number. Raditz would've been effected a lot more severely from Gohan's rage attack, if it wasn't. It could've even killed him.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Dec 29 2013, 05:59 PM Post #4
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Nappa said he was strong as a Saibaman, in the Daizenshuu; Toriyama says that he is actually a bit stronger. The Daizenshuu then claim 1,500 because of that. Is that a bit much? Well that's for you to decide. 1,500 does work if you assume Raditz's control over his own BP is amateurish since he he was killed by an attack registered at 1,440. One could argue that Gohan roughed him up to a point where that would kill him, but Raditz also claims he couldn't block the SBC prior to that sooooooooo yeah.... I personally accept 1,500 simply because I don't find much point in arguing with official material.
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+ Kaboom	Dec 29 2013, 06:33 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	Nappa didn't actually say the Saibaimen were strictly "equal" to Raditz — that's a slight translation hiccup from Viz. The Japanese word he used more closely means "about the same" or in this case "rivaling." Which combined with Toriyama's input all points to the 1,500 figure for Raditz. Edited by Kaboom, Dec 29 2013, 11:10 PM.



* Ketchup Revenge	Dec 29 2013, 10:24 PM Post #6
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Kienzan Dec 29 2013, 05:51 PM Right now, I'm seeing it as being closer to the Daiz number. Raditz would've been effected a lot more severely from Gohan's rage attack, if it wasn't. It could've even killed him. I agree, however, his armor blocked a percentage of the blow; which is exactly what it was supposed to do. As for the OP: When he's fresh, I have him at around 1,500, which would put him at a 20% advantage over a Saibaman.
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Gracek90	Dec 30 2013, 09:52 AM Post #7
Posts: 566 Group: Member Member #10,535 Joined: November 27, 2013 Gender Male	1500 works fine with him. I mean nothing really contradicts that.
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Alex D. Boss	Dec 30 2013, 02:41 PM Post #8
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	1,500 doesnt rival Saibamans , especially when Gohan attacked him which got him acted like a drunken man. 1,350 at highest for me.



No. 20	Dec 30 2013, 02:51 PM Post #9
Posts: 81 Group: Member Member #9,389 Joined: April 17, 2013	Alex KloonBoss Dec 30 2013, 02:41 PM 1,500 doesnt rival Saibamans , especially when Gohan attacked him which got him acted like a drunken man. 1,350 at highest for me. Yet he was still very much alive and in the fight. It was clear that Raditz was the strongest fighter in that fight by a mile but he was repeatedly caught off-guard due to his carelessness which became his downfall. 1500 looks good. On a side note,remember that Saibamen weren't very intelligent, just powerful compared to Saiyan-arc humans, but even Yamcha was caught off-guard so honestly a difference of 100-500 PL are not as important as fighting intelligence/technique Edited by No. 20, Dec 30 2013, 02:52 PM.



Alex D. Boss	Dec 30 2013, 03:05 PM Post #10
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	The Doctor Dec 30 2013, 02:51 PM Alex KloonBoss Dec 30 2013, 02:41 PM 1,500 doesnt rival Saibamans , especially when Gohan attacked him which got him acted like a drunken man. 1,350 at highest for me. Yet he was still very much alive and in the fight. It was clear that Raditz was the strongest fighter in that fight by a mile but he was repeatedly caught off-guard due to his carelessness which became his downfall. 1500 looks good. On a side note,remember that Saibamen weren't very intelligent, just powerful compared to Saiyan-arc humans, but even Yamcha was caught off-guard so honestly a difference of 100-500 PL are not as important as fighting intelligence/technique That doesn't change the fact that Gohan enraged got him beat up "if he was supposed to be 1,500" . 1,500 doesn't rival 1,200. Evidenced by AT saying it himself. Yamcha at a level of 1,480 , put an effort on beating a Saibaman. If Raditz is at 1,500 ( whats wrong as hell ) , why should he be rival Saibaman then? That doesn't make any sense.



No. 20	Dec 30 2013, 03:15 PM Post #11
Posts: 81 Group: Member Member #9,389 Joined: April 17, 2013	Alex KloonBoss Dec 30 2013, 03:05 PM The Doctor Dec 30 2013, 02:51 PM Alex KloonBoss Dec 30 2013, 02:41 PM 1,500 doesnt rival Saibamans , especially when Gohan attacked him which got him acted like a drunken man. 1,350 at highest for me. Yet he was still very much alive and in the fight. It was clear that Raditz was the strongest fighter in that fight by a mile but he was repeatedly caught off-guard due to his carelessness which became his downfall. 1500 looks good. On a side note,remember that Saibamen weren't very intelligent, just powerful compared to Saiyan-arc humans, but even Yamcha was caught off-guard so honestly a difference of 100-500 PL are not as important as fighting intelligence/technique That doesn't change the fact that Gohan enraged got him beat up "if he was supposed to be 1,500" . 1,500 doesn't rival 1,200. Evidenced by AT saying it himself. Yamcha at a level of 1,480 , put an effort on beating a Saibaman. If Raditz is at 1,500 ( whats wrong as hell ) , why should he be rival Saibaman then? That doesn't make any sense. It was one blow that caught him off-guard. Not quite "beat-up". By this logic Krillin is more powerful than Second form Frieza because he cut his tail off. 1200-1500 PL is within rival territory. You don't need to have the exact same PL as someone to rival them. Edited by No. 20, Dec 30 2013, 03:16 PM.



Alex D. Boss	Dec 30 2013, 03:23 PM Post #12
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Kienzan is not a power related attack , so that argument fails. 1200 -1500 isn't a rival territory evidenced by Yamcha's fight.



No. 20	Dec 30 2013, 03:33 PM Post #13
Posts: 81 Group: Member Member #9,389 Joined: April 17, 2013	Alex KloonBoss Dec 30 2013, 03:23 PM Kienzan is not a power related attack , so that argument fails. 1200 -1500 isn't a rival territory evidenced by Yamcha's fight. I'm not making that argument...i'm trying to show you the illogic of yours. Yamcha's fight was pretty close before it ended and there really was no clear winner = rival territory. What did that fight evidence to you?



* Ketchup Revenge	Dec 30 2013, 04:01 PM Post #14
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Alex KloonBoss Dec 30 2013, 02:41 PM 1,500 doesnt rival Saibamans , especially when Gohan attacked him which got him acted like a drunken man. 1,350 at highest for me. I agree, but he was weakened after Gohan attacked him. Even if he started at 1,500 at the start of the fight, he could've dropped to 1,300 after Gohan's blow. He made no attempt to block Gohan, even though his armor did glance a decent percentage of the blow. You can have a much lower PL and do damage to someone who's a lot stronger if you surprise them or they're not paying attention. Gohan and Krillin during the Freeza arc were able to fire a shot off on Freeza, who was distracted by Piccolo, even though they'd been considerably weakened because they transferred most of their ki to Piccolo. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Dec 30 2013, 04:04 PM.
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Alex D. Boss	Dec 30 2013, 04:10 PM Post #15
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	The Doctor Dec 30 2013, 03:33 PM Alex KloonBoss Dec 30 2013, 03:23 PM Kienzan is not a power related attack , so that argument fails. 1200 -1500 isn't a rival territory evidenced by Yamcha's fight. I'm not making that argument...i'm trying to show you the illogic of yours. Yamcha's fight was pretty close before it ended and there really was no clear winner = rival territory. What did that fight evidence to you? "there really was no clear winner" lmao, I'm not going further with you anymore. Its a clear fact Yamcha beat Saibaman.



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