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Sonic vs Shadow
Topic Started: Dec 29 2013, 01:17 AM (2,024 Views)
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Sonic the Hedgehog vs Shadow the Hedgehog
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Well they are suppose to be equal right?those two versions at least,so why not a tie :huh: ?
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In Video game Canon Shadow should stomp Sonic. Sonic only wins due to plot and being controlled by the player but based on story the chain should be

Shadow(full power)>Sonic=Shadow.

While there speed is the same Shadow also has greater strength matching if not exceeding knuckles. Ring boosts and the super boost would also be the same unless you assume Sonic gets Hyper and Shadow doesn't.

In Archie world

Sonic god stomps easily. Shadow is stated to be very powerful and have a direct link to the chaos force but SOnic is the chaos force in that world.

Its like Yoda vs a Fully realized Anakin.
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In the Anime ( i really cannot consider it an anime so CARTOON) shadow can basically teleport.
They both have all feats from all canins. Games comics and show
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Tough to say but if I had to choose it'd be Sonic.
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Anime wise yes I agree, but in video games without some sort of plot boost like Miquel said, I just don't see Sonic getting close to him, he loses.
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Game: Shadow without plot.

Anime: Could go either way but Shadow has been known to use power quickly. I think Sonic vs Shadow is 2-1-3 in Shadow's favor.

Comic: Sonic easily.
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Eeeeh, I don't think Shadow would win so easily in the games. Sonic keeps winning these days for a reason IMO. Shadow hasn't beat Sonic since Shadow the Hedgehog. Plot had nothing to do with Shadow's defeat in Sonic Generations.
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Jan 13 2014, 03:18 AM
Eeeeh, I don't think Shadow would win so easily in the games. Sonic keeps winning these days for a reason IMO. Shadow hasn't beat Sonic since Shadow the Hedgehog. Plot had nothing to do with Shadow's defeat in Sonic Generations.
Shadow is more or less equal to Sonic while wearing his suppression rings, if he took them off he would beat Sonic.

Also In SOnic Generations I don't know if that fight was canon but even if it was it was hugely due to plot.

Sonic (in generations)= Super Sonic(pre generations).
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Why it was about plot? I think Sonic was pretty much well above Shadow back then.
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Eeeeh, I don't think Shadow would win so easily in the games. Sonic keeps winning these days for a reason IMO. Shadow hasn't beat Sonic since Shadow the Hedgehog. Plot had nothing to do with Shadow's defeat in Sonic Generations.
Shadow is more or less equal to Sonic while wearing his suppression rings, if he took them off he would beat Sonic.

Also In SOnic Generations I don't know if that fight was canon but even if it was it was hugely due to plot.

Sonic (in generations)= Super Sonic(pre generations).
I don't see what base Sonic beating Perfect Chaos has to do with plot. It just shows Sonic has gotten stronger over the years. You see, we've never seen Sonic fight Shadow without his inhibitor rings. We really can't say for sure who would win. Also, yes Sonic Generations is considered canon. Sonic vs Shadow is a conundrum these days when it comes to the video games. As far as the comics go, Sonic godstomps. I will, however, give Shadow the victory in Sonic X.
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For Sonic to have improved enough for his Base to equal his Super Form would imply a huge increase in power but Classic Super Sonic is still relevant to Modern Super Sonic.

In order for

Mordern Super Sonic=/> Classic Super Sonic>Base Sonic> perfect Chaos

to make sense Sega would have just worried on telling a good story and not worried about power levels. We know in SOnic 06 Sonic= Shadow(supressed)=/> Silver and the three is their super forms are comparable so that leaves plot as the reason Sonic is as strong as he is in generations.
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Since when is class Sonic relevant to modern Sonic, I saw nothing putting classic on par with Modern Sonic. Furthermore, Who says base modern Sonic is on par with Super Sonic from SA1? He just has to be strong enough to beat Perfect Chaos. Furthermore, if you listen to Tikal's prayer, Super forms are as strong as they need to be. This is how Super got knocked out of Sonic by Knuckles, yet Super Sonic tangles with a nigh Omnipotent sun god. It's very possible that base Modern Sonic is now on par with said Super Sonic.
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Jan 14 2014, 07:27 PM
Since when is class Sonic relevant to modern Sonic, I saw nothing putting classic on par with Modern Sonic. Furthermore, Who says base modern Sonic is on par with Super Sonic from SA1? He just has to be strong enough to beat Perfect Chaos. Furthermore, if you listen to Tikal's prayer, Super forms are as strong as they need to be. This is how Super got knocked out of Sonic by Knuckles, yet Super Sonic tangles with a nigh Omnipotent sun god. It's very possible that base Modern Sonic is now on par with said Super Sonic.
Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic were the only ones who can handle the time eater. Modern Sonic was more experienced and had more powers but generations clearly was showing the two Sonics> everyone else.

Because Super SOnic was the only thing that could handle Perfect Chaos so since Base Sonic in generations could handle him he is at least that level.

Knuckles knocked out Super Sonic because Knuckles had the Master Emerald which stopped the Chaos Emeralds.
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Since when is class Sonic relevant to modern Sonic, I saw nothing putting classic on par with Modern Sonic. Furthermore, Who says base modern Sonic is on par with Super Sonic from SA1? He just has to be strong enough to beat Perfect Chaos. Furthermore, if you listen to Tikal's prayer, Super forms are as strong as they need to be. This is how Super got knocked out of Sonic by Knuckles, yet Super Sonic tangles with a nigh Omnipotent sun god. It's very possible that base Modern Sonic is now on par with said Super Sonic.
Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic were the only ones who can handle the time eater. Modern Sonic was more experienced and had more powers but generations clearly was showing the two Sonics> everyone else.

Because Super SOnic was the only thing that could handle Perfect Chaos so since Base Sonic in generations could handle him he is at least that level.

Knuckles knocked out Super Sonic because Knuckles had the Master Emerald which stopped the Chaos Emeralds.
I really suggest playing Sonic 3 and Knuckles again. There was no Master Emerald around when Knuckles punched Sonic out of his Super form. Yeah, they were able to fight the Time Eater... in their super forms. Again, Tikal's prayer suggests that the super forms are as strong as they need to be. Super Sonic from SA1 isn't necessarily that much stronger than base Sonic. He got as much power as was necessary to beat Perfect Chaos.
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Knuckles knocked out Super Sonic because Knuckles had the Master Emerald which stopped the Chaos Emeralds.
I really suggest playing Sonic 3 and Knuckles again. There was no Master Emerald around when Knuckles punched Sonic out of his Super form. Yeah, they were able to fight the Time Eater... in their super forms. Again, Tikal's prayer suggests that the super forms are as strong as they need to be. Super Sonic from SA1 isn't necessarily that much stronger than base Sonic. He got as much power as was necessary to beat Perfect Chaos.
Knuckles used the master emeralds power in order to cheap shot Sonic but I may be thinking of the comic not the game.

As for Super Forms they are huge power increases not just as much power you need increases.

Super SOnic is a tleast

Sonic + 7 chaos emeralds and a single emerald is a huge increase. Also Super SOnic is said to be a far increase to Sonic's abilities.

Considering Super Sonic is a homage to SSJ the form might even be a 50x increase.
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