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What multiplers do you use for the forms
Topic Started: Dec 29 2013, 12:22 AM (2,604 Views)
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I always have:
Base
Oozaru: 10x Base
SSJ: 50x Base
ASSJ: 1.5x SSJ
USSJ: 2x SSJ (But decrease in speed)
SSJ2: 2x SSJ
SSJ3: 4x SSJ2
FSSJ: 20x Base
RSSJ: 45x Base
LSSJ: 2x Base + a little bonus
Kaioken xA = Ax Base. Kaioken = Kaioken x2
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Oozaru:: 10x base
Super Saiyan: 50x base then decreases to 10x base when the fighter reaches MSSJ
Ascended Super Saiyan: 75x base, 1.5x Super Saiyan
Ultra Super Saiyan: 125x base, 2.5x Super Saiyan
Super Saiyan 2: 30x base, 3x MSSJ
Super Saiyan 3: 120x base, 4x SSJ2, 12x MSSJ
Super Saiyan 4: don't have a multiplier for SSJ4

Metamoru/Potara Fusion: don't have static multipliers for fusion
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Why would it decrease. Mssj should make you STRONGER not weaker.
SSJ 50x base
ssj2 2x ssj
ssj3 4 x ssj2
ssj4 im not gonna say it again. these are Official from what ive heard dont ask me where
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ssj=10*base
ssj2=2*ssj
ssj3=4*ssj2

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That means vegeta was a super saiyan ar saiyan saga power wise. which makes no sense to why he wants Ssj SO bad ( other than it being a legend). there obviously has to be a greater benefit.
such as a massive power Boost
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Dec 29 2013, 01:08 PM
Oozaru:: 10x base
Super Saiyan: 50x base then decreases to 10x base when the fighter reaches MSSJ
Ascended Super Saiyan: 75x base, 1.5x Super Saiyan
Ultra Super Saiyan: 125x base, 2.5x Super Saiyan
Super Saiyan 2: 30x base, 3x MSSJ
Super Saiyan 3: 120x base, 4x SSJ2, 12x MSSJ
Super Saiyan 4: don't have a multiplier for SSJ4

Metamoru/Potara Fusion: don't have static multipliers for fusion
I think MSSJ makes you stronger, not weaker

Actually, I always thought MSSJ = SSJ power-wise but MSSJ just puts less strain on your body
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The 10x multiplier doesn't make you weaker, it's the base form power who gets stronger. I use this multiplier mainly because of the Goku vs Yakon fight and the kili stuff.
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Then it would be x50 x10. that's x500. That would make MSSJ stronger than SSJ2. You're not making sense
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No matter what happens Ssj multiplier stays the sane. and its not less strain on your Body, its less energy loss ( u have 100 energy point ssj takes out 50, Mssj take out nothing you can sleep eat anything with it) and less Strain ( barely any strain to begin with)
goku vs yakon: he webt super saiyan and used massive amounts of ki which at Ssj ( like vs 19 no virus but at buu saga)would bring you back to base before reachin Max piwer.
to much ki output. like when goku needed 1 minute to power up ssj3 to max but ended up base.
So Mssj 3( regular mssj) would be puting out 80% less ki then Ssj3 ( Goku ssj at any ither point pre rosat
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I have my power levels like this:

Base Goku [Android Saga]: 8
SSJ Goku [Android Saga]: 400 (50x increase)
Base Goku [Cell Games]: 1.200
MSSJ Goku [Cell Games]: 12.000 (10x increase)

If Goku didn't master the SSJ, his power level at base would 50x weaker than the SSJ (it would be 240). So, the SSJ power level would be the same. Well, I don't really know how to explain this better, English is not my native language.
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Dec 29 2013, 02:34 PM
Base Goku [Cell Games]: 1.200
MSSJ Goku [Cell Games]: 12.000 (10x increase)
This part I do not understand, you give him a 10x increase.

If he turned SSj instead of MSSj he'd be 1.200 x 50 = 60.000

Basically you're saying MSSJ < SSJ.
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theres a difference between mastering a form and getting stronger.

Goku pre rosat: 500,000,000
Goku SSJ pre rosat:25,000,000,000 or 250 bil i hate math
Goku post rosat: 250 bil or 25 bil ( ssj pre rosat lvl(
Goku Ssj post rosat ( mssj): X50+ less ki output. fullpower just ibcreases stamina as vegeta stated.
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Dec 29 2013, 02:51 PM
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Base Goku [Cell Games]: 1.200
MSSJ Goku [Cell Games]: 12.000 (10x increase)
This part I do not understand, you give him a 10x increase.

If he turned SSj instead of MSSj he'd be 1.200 x 50 = 60.000

Basically you're saying MSSJ < SSJ.
Maybe he's just saying that the multiplier gets smaller as the user's base power gets higher
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thats absurd
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Dec 29 2013, 02:54 PM
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Base Goku [Cell Games]: 1.200
MSSJ Goku [Cell Games]: 12.000 (10x increase)
This part I do not understand, you give him a 10x increase.

If he turned SSj instead of MSSj he'd be 1.200 x 50 = 60.000

Basically you're saying MSSJ < SSJ.
Maybe he's just saying that the multiplier gets smaller as the user's base power gets higher
Yes, that's the point.

I repeat, I'm saying this only because of that kili thing. If the multiplier was 50x in the Buu Saga, Goku would have 60 kilis, but Yakon had 800. And Goku was not losing against him before turning SSJ. But, well, we don't know if kilis work the same way as power levels and most likely they don't.
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