Sky Hedgehogian Maestro

Dec 27 2013, 05:14 PM

Chi-chi is so incredibly strict, to the point of an almost delusional idea that her son studying and doing homework is more important than whether he lives or dies. In that sense, she can be seen as a bad parent. However, I've always seen as being more or less a "strong mother" taken to the extreme. It's dubious if she's really "bad" or not, as she was so very okay with raising Gohan (and Goten) by herself and doing a pretty good job at it, as well as knew when to let her sons go on and do what they had to do (rather than rushing them off).

Goku is a mother f***er who should never have been allowed near children. I bet the only reason he didn't just IT Cell into the void of space with just a few wastes of ki signals to latch onto and return to Earth was because he wanted to get out of supporting 2 sons. /blacksarcasm
/no,notTHATblack,racist

If I were a parent, as much as I'd want my superpowered children to become demigods, allowing them to get pulverized by super sadistic demons-in-the-flesh and then not even being sure if what you're doing will work... I mean, wow. And that's just the start. At the very least, Vegeta bonded with his son somewhat. I personally think that the only reason he trained Gohan was just to have a strong sparring partner. And I never thought he cared too much about Goten. Never had a reason, I admit (the 7 years he was alive, Goku was dead; the day after he meets his second son, Goten is killed, I mean, yeah. That's a life.)

God, I needed this catharsis.

Crashbreaka

Dec 28 2013, 04:51 AM

I wouldn't say it annoys me since I'm not really that bothered either way, but I don't think it's fair to judge their parenting (particularly Goku's) based on current day standards. While Goku looks human, he's still a Saiyan and has all of the Saiyan traits. Personally I think he'd be parent of the year if Saiyans were still around.

Toji

Dec 28 2013, 02:12 AM

While Chi-Chi was annoying, she wasn't a bad parent.

Goku on the other hand - i think he spent more time prancing around in hell than actually raising his kids. Also, I suspect he used the whole being dead thing as an excuse to avoid raising his own kids.

Ben

Dec 28 2013, 06:48 PM

Toji

Dec 28 2013, 02:12 AM

While Chi-Chi was annoying, she wasn't a bad parent.

Goku on the other hand - i think he spent more time prancing around in hell than actually raising his kids. Also, I suspect he used the whole being dead thing as an excuse to avoid raising his own kids.

Somedbody needs to do a parody video of Goku and Chi Chi getting parenting lessons from Dr. Phil.

Muyasuki

Dec 28 2013, 06:06 AM

Crashbreaka

Dec 28 2013, 04:51 AM

I wouldn't say it annoys me since I'm not really that bothered either way, but I don't think it's fair to judge their parenting (particularly Goku's) based on current day standards. While Goku looks human, he's still a Saiyan and has all of the Saiyan traits. Personally I think he'd be parent of the year if Saiyans were still around.

Chichi can be an irrational parent, but ultimately, she isn't a bad one.

The "Saiyan" excuse doesn't fly when Vegeta (post Cell games) is shown to be a significantly better parent than Goku despite spending more time in direct Saiyan contact. Vegeta's main problem really is his personality; he actually does try to be a good father. Goku's just an absolutely horrible parent by absolutely every standard imaginable. You can filmsly defend him not wanting to be wished back (its not a good reason but you can, at least, defend it). What you CAN'T defend is what he plans to do with Uub. Outside of the very beginning of the series, you really don't get the fatherly vibe from Goku towards Gohan (and even moreso with Goten). In contrast, Piccolo (who spent even LESS time with others) Krillin and Bulma really do have a stronger claims to the parental role for (at least) Gohan.

Honestly, if Gohan had deep seeded resentment towards Goku, it really wouldn't be a surprise.

Crashbreaka

Dec 28 2013, 10:46 PM

Muyasuki

Dec 28 2013, 06:06 AM

Crashbreaka

Dec 28 2013, 04:51 AM

I wouldn't say it annoys me since I'm not really that bothered either way, but I don't think it's fair to judge their parenting (particularly Goku's) based on current day standards. While Goku looks human, he's still a Saiyan and has all of the Saiyan traits. Personally I think he'd be parent of the year if Saiyans were still around.

Chichi can be an irrational parent, but ultimately, she isn't a bad one.

The "Saiyan" excuse doesn't fly when Vegeta (post Cell games) is shown to be a significantly better parent than Goku despite spending more time in direct Saiyan contact. Vegeta's main problem really is his personality; he actually does try to be a good father. Goku's just an absolutely horrible parent by absolutely every standard imaginable. You can filmsly defend him not wanting to be wished back (its not a good reason but you can, at least, defend it). What you CAN'T defend is what he plans to do with Uub. Outside of the very beginning of the series, you really don't get the fatherly vibe from Goku towards Gohan (and even moreso with Goten). In contrast, Piccolo (who spent even LESS time with others) Krillin and Bulma really do have a stronger claims to the parental role for (at least) Gohan.

Honestly, if Gohan had deep seeded resentment towards Goku, it really wouldn't be a surprise.

Was Vegeta really shown to that good of a father though? I remember the fact that he had never hugged him prior to his (super badass) Final Explosion thingy was a pretty strong element in Buu Saga.

Hearts

Dec 27 2013, 03:43 PM

Goku is an awful parent by any standard.. You saying that hes a saiyan doesnt excuse it, thats like saying that King Vegeta or Bardock is a good parent. Goku spent a total of 8 years with Gohan, basically half of his life. He also spent 8 years with Chi-Chi and he spent 1 day with Goten.

Vegeta spent his entire life with Trunks, his personality makes him a bad father but you can clearly see that he cares about his son enough, this is after the Cell Games ofcourse. So Vegeta isnt a good father but hes not a bad father, its not like hes abusing drugs, spending money on random stuff instead of food or stuff like that. So by Human standards, Vegeta is an average father..

Chichi is a good mother.. Tell me, how many of you would send your 5 year old son to fight people who has slaughtered billions? and keep remembering that your son will also be WEAKER than those people...