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SSJ3 Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks but not SSJ.

Give me one reason why it couldn't be Super Saiyan Gogeta alone? Like I said before Vegito had no idea if he was going to be vastly stronger than Buuhan, so why not for Gogeta, he had more understanding of the Dance than the Potara.

SSJ Vegito was stronger than he expected because of the Rival Boost. He didn't knew that he would get the Rival Boost because he never saw it's power. Elder Kai clearly stated Potara is better than the Fusion Dance.

better isn't defined all that much, like how AT agrees that a 1.5x is great enough for Whis to be stronger than Birusu. And I know of the boost and I accounted that with in my first post they still didn't know if they were gonna match Buuhan's strength so it would have been slightly more logical for them to ascend to Vegito's strongest state Super Saiyan 3, instead of 1 like how Goku most likely was gonna do with Gohan, before the mentioning of the Potara.

Goku knew Vegito could beat Boohan. He knew Potara's power due to Kibitoshin so Goku could think about Vegito's SSJ. Because Vegito's power was more than he expected due to Rival Boost, Boohan was beaten pretty badly.

Goku had no idea if Vegito would win either, he was skeptical if even Vegeta and him were going to raise to his level. The Potara's power differs from user to user.

Goku had no idea????

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!”

You misunderstood bud I'm referring to the time Goku suggests the Dance with Gohan to fight Buutenks. Elder Kaioshin never downplays it he just assumed Buu isn't going to wait for the two two fuse, so he gave them the Potara.

The Fusion Dance Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks stated by Elder Kai and Goku. But Boohan said that he would beat Gogeta (who was equal to Gokan) means he was referring to SSJ3. So only SSJ3 Gogeta could beat Bootenks.

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SSJ3 Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks but not SSJ.

Give me one reason why it couldn't be Super Saiyan Gogeta alone? Like I said before Vegito had no idea if he was going to be vastly stronger than Buuhan, so why not for Gogeta, he had more understanding of the Dance than the Potara.

SSJ Vegito was stronger than he expected because of the Rival Boost. He didn't knew that he would get the Rival Boost because he never saw it's power. Elder Kai clearly stated Potara is better than the Fusion Dance.

better isn't defined all that much, like how AT agrees that a 1.5x is great enough for Whis to be stronger than Birusu. And I know of the boost and I accounted that with in my first post they still didn't know if they were gonna match Buuhan's strength so it would have been slightly more logical for them to ascend to Vegito's strongest state Super Saiyan 3, instead of 1 like how Goku most likely was gonna do with Gohan, before the mentioning of the Potara.

Goku knew Vegito could beat Boohan. He knew Potara's power due to Kibitoshin so Goku could think about Vegito's SSJ. Because Vegito's power was more than he expected due to Rival Boost, Boohan was beaten pretty badly.

Goku had no idea if Vegito would win either, he was skeptical if even Vegeta and him were going to raise to his level. The Potara's power differs from user to user.

Goku had no idea????

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!”

You misunderstood bud I'm referring to the time Goku suggests the Dance with Gohan to fight Buutenks. Elder Kaioshin never downplays it he just assumed Buu isn't going to wait for the two two fuse, so he gave them the Potara.

The Fusion Dance Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks stated by Elder Kai and Goku. But Boohan said that he would beat Gogeta (who was equal to Gokan) means he was referring to SSJ3. So only SSJ3 Gogeta could beat Bootenks.

Where's the quote for that statement?

If it's when he met up with Vegeta and Goku then that's bias because he knew that Goku was going to use the earrings.

Also If what you say is correct then that should put Gogeta (Gohan) above Buutenks as a Super Saiyan. Because Buu had an idea how big the boost would be, having the kids in all, and was unaware if the earrings were gonna have the same results. And with his strength furthered increased he was confident even a SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) wouldn't work NOW.

Buutenks > / / < SSJ Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ2 Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) ~ Base Vegito > / / < Buuhan < < SSJ Vegito

And if Goku was unsure if the Potara would be enough to beat Buuhan, he says there isn't any other way because his Super Saiyan 3 power alone is nothing to Buuhan, and Gogeta's advantage is now gone.

Goku started as a Super Saiyan, the most basic form, as Vegito, so he would have for Gogeta as well.

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SSJ Vegito was stronger than he expected because of the Rival Boost. He didn't knew that he would get the Rival Boost because he never saw it's power. Elder Kai clearly stated Potara is better than the Fusion Dance.

better isn't defined all that much, like how AT agrees that a 1.5x is great enough for Whis to be stronger than Birusu. And I know of the boost and I accounted that with in my first post they still didn't know if they were gonna match Buuhan's strength so it would have been slightly more logical for them to ascend to Vegito's strongest state Super Saiyan 3, instead of 1 like how Goku most likely was gonna do with Gohan, before the mentioning of the Potara.

Goku knew Vegito could beat Boohan. He knew Potara's power due to Kibitoshin so Goku could think about Vegito's SSJ. Because Vegito's power was more than he expected due to Rival Boost, Boohan was beaten pretty badly.

Goku had no idea if Vegito would win either, he was skeptical if even Vegeta and him were going to raise to his level. The Potara's power differs from user to user.

Goku had no idea????

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!”

You misunderstood bud I'm referring to the time Goku suggests the Dance with Gohan to fight Buutenks. Elder Kaioshin never downplays it he just assumed Buu isn't going to wait for the two two fuse, so he gave them the Potara.

The Fusion Dance Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks stated by Elder Kai and Goku. But Boohan said that he would beat Gogeta (who was equal to Gokan) means he was referring to SSJ3. So only SSJ3 Gogeta could beat Bootenks.

Where's the quote for that statement?

If it's when he met up with Vegeta and Goku then that's bias because he knew that Goku was going to use the earrings.

Also If what you say is correct then that should put Gogeta (Gohan) above Buutenks as a Super Saiyan. Because Buu had an idea how big the boost would be, having the kids in all, and was unaware if the earrings were gonna have the same results. And with his strength furthered increased he was confident even a SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) wouldn't work NOW.

Buutenks > / / < SSJ Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ2 Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) ~ Base Vegito > / / < Buuhan < < SSJ Vegito

And if Goku was unsure if the Potara would be enough to beat Buuhan, he says there isn't any other way because his Super Saiyan 3 power alone is nothing to Buuhan, and Gogeta's advantage is now gone.

Goku started as a Super Saiyan, the most basic form, as Vegito, so he would have for Gogeta as well.

Goku knew Potara is the only way to win. He never mentioned about which form he was going to use against Vegito.

petewentz

Dec 25 2013, 11:43 PM

No;

DBZ vol 25, pg 214.
Context: Goku just suggested fusion for beating Buutenks
Goku: "I know!!! Fusion!! Gohan and I can fuse!!
Old Kai: "Fusion...just the kids used...I doubt that Boo will wait while you do that annoying dance"

It's not so much the weakness of a hypothetical Gogeta(Gohan) as much as it is the impracticality of doing the dance and Buu allowing them to perform it.

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better isn't defined all that much, like how AT agrees that a 1.5x is great enough for Whis to be stronger than Birusu. And I know of the boost and I accounted that with in my first post they still didn't know if they were gonna match Buuhan's strength so it would have been slightly more logical for them to ascend to Vegito's strongest state Super Saiyan 3, instead of 1 like how Goku most likely was gonna do with Gohan, before the mentioning of the Potara.

Goku knew Vegito could beat Boohan. He knew Potara's power due to Kibitoshin so Goku could think about Vegito's SSJ. Because Vegito's power was more than he expected due to Rival Boost, Boohan was beaten pretty badly.

Goku had no idea if Vegito would win either, he was skeptical if even Vegeta and him were going to raise to his level. The Potara's power differs from user to user.

Goku had no idea????

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!”

You misunderstood bud I'm referring to the time Goku suggests the Dance with Gohan to fight Buutenks. Elder Kaioshin never downplays it he just assumed Buu isn't going to wait for the two two fuse, so he gave them the Potara.

The Fusion Dance Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks stated by Elder Kai and Goku. But Boohan said that he would beat Gogeta (who was equal to Gokan) means he was referring to SSJ3. So only SSJ3 Gogeta could beat Bootenks.

Where's the quote for that statement?

If it's when he met up with Vegeta and Goku then that's bias because he knew that Goku was going to use the earrings.

Also If what you say is correct then that should put Gogeta (Gohan) above Buutenks as a Super Saiyan. Because Buu had an idea how big the boost would be, having the kids in all, and was unaware if the earrings were gonna have the same results. And with his strength furthered increased he was confident even a SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) wouldn't work NOW.

Buutenks > / / < SSJ Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ2 Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) ~ Base Vegito > / / < Buuhan < < SSJ Vegito

And if Goku was unsure if the Potara would be enough to beat Buuhan, he says there isn't any other way because his Super Saiyan 3 power alone is nothing to Buuhan, and Gogeta's advantage is now gone.

Goku started as a Super Saiyan, the most basic form, as Vegito, so he would have for Gogeta as well.

Goku knew Potara is the only way to win. He never mentioned about which form he was going to use against Vegito.

Goku didn't know, 100%, but he'd figured since even a SSJ3 Gogeta will be useless now against Buuhan, now and if it was the only way to win then he would have transformed into a SSJ3 right off the bat to make sure they win.

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Dec 23 2013, 07:42 PM

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Goku knew Vegito could beat Boohan. He knew Potara's power due to Kibitoshin so Goku could think about Vegito's SSJ. Because Vegito's power was more than he expected due to Rival Boost, Boohan was beaten pretty badly.

Goku had no idea if Vegito would win either, he was skeptical if even Vegeta and him were going to raise to his level. The Potara's power differs from user to user.

Goku had no idea????

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!”

You misunderstood bud I'm referring to the time Goku suggests the Dance with Gohan to fight Buutenks. Elder Kaioshin never downplays it he just assumed Buu isn't going to wait for the two two fuse, so he gave them the Potara.

The Fusion Dance Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks stated by Elder Kai and Goku. But Boohan said that he would beat Gogeta (who was equal to Gokan) means he was referring to SSJ3. So only SSJ3 Gogeta could beat Bootenks.

Where's the quote for that statement?

If it's when he met up with Vegeta and Goku then that's bias because he knew that Goku was going to use the earrings.

Also If what you say is correct then that should put Gogeta (Gohan) above Buutenks as a Super Saiyan. Because Buu had an idea how big the boost would be, having the kids in all, and was unaware if the earrings were gonna have the same results. And with his strength furthered increased he was confident even a SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) wouldn't work NOW.

Buutenks > / / < SSJ Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ2 Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) ~ Base Vegito > / / < Buuhan < < SSJ Vegito

And if Goku was unsure if the Potara would be enough to beat Buuhan, he says there isn't any other way because his Super Saiyan 3 power alone is nothing to Buuhan, and Gogeta's advantage is now gone.

Goku started as a Super Saiyan, the most basic form, as Vegito, so he would have for Gogeta as well.

Goku knew Potara is the only way to win. He never mentioned about which form he was going to use against Vegito.

Goku didn't know, 100%, but he'd figured since even a SSJ3 Gogeta will be useless now against Buuhan, now and if it was the only way to win then he would have transformed into a SSJ3 right off the bat to make sure they win.

If SSJ2 Gogeta was strong enough to beat Boohan then Goku would have preferred the Fusion Dance with Vegeta instead of Potara. Goku said Potara is the only way to win but he didn't needed SSJ3 as Vegito because SSJ was enough to beat Boohan.

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Goku had no idea if Vegito would win either, he was skeptical if even Vegeta and him were going to raise to his level. The Potara's power differs from user to user.

Goku had no idea????

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!”

You misunderstood bud I'm referring to the time Goku suggests the Dance with Gohan to fight Buutenks. Elder Kaioshin never downplays it he just assumed Buu isn't going to wait for the two two fuse, so he gave them the Potara.

The Fusion Dance Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks stated by Elder Kai and Goku. But Boohan said that he would beat Gogeta (who was equal to Gokan) means he was referring to SSJ3. So only SSJ3 Gogeta could beat Bootenks.

Where's the quote for that statement?

If it's when he met up with Vegeta and Goku then that's bias because he knew that Goku was going to use the earrings.

Also If what you say is correct then that should put Gogeta (Gohan) above Buutenks as a Super Saiyan. Because Buu had an idea how big the boost would be, having the kids in all, and was unaware if the earrings were gonna have the same results. And with his strength furthered increased he was confident even a SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) wouldn't work NOW.

Buutenks > / / < SSJ Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ2 Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) ~ Base Vegito > / / < Buuhan < < SSJ Vegito

And if Goku was unsure if the Potara would be enough to beat Buuhan, he says there isn't any other way because his Super Saiyan 3 power alone is nothing to Buuhan, and Gogeta's advantage is now gone.

Goku started as a Super Saiyan, the most basic form, as Vegito, so he would have for Gogeta as well.

Goku knew Potara is the only way to win. He never mentioned about which form he was going to use against Vegito.

Goku didn't know, 100%, but he'd figured since even a SSJ3 Gogeta will be useless now against Buuhan, now and if it was the only way to win then he would have transformed into a SSJ3 right off the bat to make sure they win.

If SSJ2 Gogeta was strong enough to beat Boohan then Goku would have preferred the Fusion Dance with Vegeta instead of Potara. Goku said Potara is the only way to win but he didn't needed SSJ3 as Vegito because SSJ was enough to beat Boohan.

Look Gogeta was a non-factor against Buuhan, so he took the option of fusing with Vegeta via Potara, since he was encouraged with the power of the Potara by Elder Kaioshin of it's effect. And I never deduced that a Gogeta could beat Buuhan anyway, I was talking about BuuTENKS.

And how could Goku know a SSJ Vegito could beat Buuhan? Just because he saw Eastern Kaioshin and Kibito fuse don't really explain much seeing the big difference in power between the two, Goku and Vegeta were equals so the power Vegito got is because of those two high power levels, even Elder Kaioshin says this after Kibito Kai is shocked that the Potara are more powerful than he thought, with Old Geezer debunking him of why it's actually those two. That shows that the boost Kibito Kaioshin isn't linear with the one Vegito got.

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SSJ3 Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks but not SSJ.

Give me one reason why it couldn't be Super Saiyan Gogeta alone? Like I said before Vegito had no idea if he was going to be vastly stronger than Buuhan, so why not for Gogeta, he had more understanding of the Dance than the Potara.

SSJ Vegito was stronger than he expected because of the Rival Boost. He didn't knew that he would get the Rival Boost because he never saw it's power. Elder Kai clearly stated Potara is better than the Fusion Dance.

better isn't defined all that much, like how AT agrees that a 1.5x is great enough for Whis to be stronger than Birusu. And I know of the boost and I accounted that with in my first post they still didn't know if they were gonna match Buuhan's strength so it would have been slightly more logical for them to ascend to Vegito's strongest state Super Saiyan 3, instead of 1 like how Goku most likely was gonna do with Gohan, before the mentioning of the Potara.

Goku knew Vegito could beat Boohan. He knew Potara's power due to Kibitoshin so Goku could think about Vegito's SSJ. Because Vegito's power was more than he expected due to Rival Boost, Boohan was beaten pretty badly.

Goku had no idea if Vegito would win either, he was skeptical if even Vegeta and him were going to raise to his level. The Potara's power differs from user to user.

Goku had no idea????

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!”

You misunderstood bud I'm referring to the time Goku suggests the Dance with Gohan to fight Buutenks. Elder Kaioshin never downplays it he just assumed Buu isn't going to wait for the two two fuse, so he gave them the Potara.

The Fusion Dance Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks stated by Elder Kai and Goku. But Boohan said that he would beat Gogeta (who was equal to Gokan) means he was referring to SSJ3. So only SSJ3 Gogeta could beat Bootenks.

Where's the quote for that statement?

If it's when he met up with Vegeta and Goku then that's bias because he knew that Goku was going to use the earrings.

Also If what you say is correct then that should put Gogeta (Gohan) above Buutenks as a Super Saiyan. Because Buu had an idea how big the boost would be, having the kids in all, and was unaware if the earrings were gonna have the same results. And with his strength furthered increased he was confident even a SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) wouldn't work NOW.

Buutenks > / / < SSJ Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ2 Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) ~ Base Vegito > / / < Buuhan < < SSJ Vegito

And if Goku was unsure if the Potara would be enough to beat Buuhan, he says there isn't any other way because his Super Saiyan 3 power alone is nothing to Buuhan, and Gogeta's advantage is now gone.

Goku started as a Super Saiyan, the most basic form, as Vegito, so he would have for Gogeta as well.

La Fleur

Dec 27 2013, 02:23 PM

first of all Goku+Gohan fusion dance =Gogeta? ...Man wheres the "geta" come from

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Goku had no idea????

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!”

You misunderstood bud I'm referring to the time Goku suggests the Dance with Gohan to fight Buutenks. Elder Kaioshin never downplays it he just assumed Buu isn't going to wait for the two two fuse, so he gave them the Potara.

The Fusion Dance Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks stated by Elder Kai and Goku. But Boohan said that he would beat Gogeta (who was equal to Gokan) means he was referring to SSJ3. So only SSJ3 Gogeta could beat Bootenks.

Where's the quote for that statement?

If it's when he met up with Vegeta and Goku then that's bias because he knew that Goku was going to use the earrings.

Also If what you say is correct then that should put Gogeta (Gohan) above Buutenks as a Super Saiyan. Because Buu had an idea how big the boost would be, having the kids in all, and was unaware if the earrings were gonna have the same results. And with his strength furthered increased he was confident even a SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) wouldn't work NOW.

Buutenks > / / < SSJ Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ2 Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) ~ Base Vegito > / / < Buuhan < < SSJ Vegito

And if Goku was unsure if the Potara would be enough to beat Buuhan, he says there isn't any other way because his Super Saiyan 3 power alone is nothing to Buuhan, and Gogeta's advantage is now gone.

Goku started as a Super Saiyan, the most basic form, as Vegito, so he would have for Gogeta as well.

Goku knew Potara is the only way to win. He never mentioned about which form he was going to use against Vegito.

Goku didn't know, 100%, but he'd figured since even a SSJ3 Gogeta will be useless now against Buuhan, now and if it was the only way to win then he would have transformed into a SSJ3 right off the bat to make sure they win.

If SSJ2 Gogeta was strong enough to beat Boohan then Goku would have preferred the Fusion Dance with Vegeta instead of Potara. Goku said Potara is the only way to win but he didn't needed SSJ3 as Vegito because SSJ was enough to beat Boohan.

Look Gogeta was a non-factor against Buuhan, so he took the option of fusing with Vegeta via Potara, since he was encouraged with the power of the Potara by Elder Kaioshin of it's effect. And I never deduced that a Gogeta could beat Buuhan anyway, I was talking about BuuTENKS.

And how could Goku know a SSJ Vegito could beat Buuhan? Just because he saw Eastern Kaioshin and Kibito fuse don't really explain much seeing the big difference in power between the two, Goku and Vegeta were equals so the power Vegito got is because of those two high power levels, even Elder Kaioshin says this after Kibito Kai is shocked that the Potara are more powerful than he thought, with Old Geezer debunking him of why it's actually those two. That shows that the boost Kibito Kaioshin isn't linear with the one Vegito got.

So you agree that only SSJ3 Gogeta would beat Bootenks?

Exactly, That's why Vegito was surprised of his power. Goku figured out his Potara's Boost due to Kibitoshin but it was way higher than that. And it has nothing to do with Fusion Dance.

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Dec 24 2013, 04:35 PM

Mightiest Gohan

Dec 24 2013, 09:25 AM

Quoting limited to 10 levels deepThere ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!”

You misunderstood bud I'm referring to the time Goku suggests the Dance with Gohan to fight Buutenks. Elder Kaioshin never downplays it he just assumed Buu isn't going to wait for the two two fuse, so he gave them the Potara.

The Fusion Dance Gokan was enough to beat Bootenks stated by Elder Kai and Goku. But Boohan said that he would beat Gogeta (who was equal to Gokan) means he was referring to SSJ3. So only SSJ3 Gogeta could beat Bootenks.

Where's the quote for that statement?

If it's when he met up with Vegeta and Goku then that's bias because he knew that Goku was going to use the earrings.

Also If what you say is correct then that should put Gogeta (Gohan) above Buutenks as a Super Saiyan. Because Buu had an idea how big the boost would be, having the kids in all, and was unaware if the earrings were gonna have the same results. And with his strength furthered increased he was confident even a SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) wouldn't work NOW.

Buutenks > / / < SSJ Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ2 Gogeta (Gohan) < SSJ3 Gogeta (Gohan) ~ Base Vegito > / / < Buuhan < < SSJ Vegito

And if Goku was unsure if the Potara would be enough to beat Buuhan, he says there isn't any other way because his Super Saiyan 3 power alone is nothing to Buuhan, and Gogeta's advantage is now gone.

Goku started as a Super Saiyan, the most basic form, as Vegito, so he would have for Gogeta as well.

Goku knew Potara is the only way to win. He never mentioned about which form he was going to use against Vegito.

Goku didn't know, 100%, but he'd figured since even a SSJ3 Gogeta will be useless now against Buuhan, now and if it was the only way to win then he would have transformed into a SSJ3 right off the bat to make sure they win.

If SSJ2 Gogeta was strong enough to beat Boohan then Goku would have preferred the Fusion Dance with Vegeta instead of Potara. Goku said Potara is the only way to win but he didn't needed SSJ3 as Vegito because SSJ was enough to beat Boohan.

Look Gogeta was a non-factor against Buuhan, so he took the option of fusing with Vegeta via Potara, since he was encouraged with the power of the Potara by Elder Kaioshin of it's effect. And I never deduced that a Gogeta could beat Buuhan anyway, I was talking about BuuTENKS.

And how could Goku know a SSJ Vegito could beat Buuhan? Just because he saw Eastern Kaioshin and Kibito fuse don't really explain much seeing the big difference in power between the two, Goku and Vegeta were equals so the power Vegito got is because of those two high power levels, even Elder Kaioshin says this after Kibito Kai is shocked that the Potara are more powerful than he thought, with Old Geezer debunking him of why it's actually those two. That shows that the boost Kibito Kaioshin isn't linear with the one Vegito got.

So you agree that only SSJ3 Gogeta would beat Bootenks?

Exactly, That's why Vegito was surprised of his power. Goku figured out his Potara's Boost due to Kibitoshin but it was way higher than that. And it has nothing to do with Fusion Dance.

No I'm not agreeing look both of the Fusions were referring to different scenarios.

Goku was confident with beating Buutenks with Fusion, yet Elder Kaioshin states Buu won't wait to be crushed. And since Vegito started as a Super Saiyan, then SSJ Gogeta seems like the logical form for them to use as.


Buutenks < SSJ Gogeta

And for the case of Gohan with the Potara again.

Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P1.3
Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”

Goku once again refers to Super Saiyan, so I believe that Goku was also planning to use the Super Saiyan against Buutenks as well since he thought even after Elder Kaioshin explained that the effect is greater, Goku still feels (felt) the need to go Super Saiyan.

So:

Buutenks < Base Gogeta (Gohan; Potara) = SSJ Gogeta (Gohan; Fusion)

Prove this wrong.