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Debate Tournament Over the Break
Topic Started: Dec 23 2013, 04:14 AM (9,503 Views)
lazerbem
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Maybe lunar2 or Clearin are skulking around?
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Or Kingsley. I would try him too.
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These things always get hung up on one or two people. Always.
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Dec 24 2013, 03:23 AM

I had an idea, I think its common now a days that beyond a few select points there's many things we agree on I know we had this problem a lot last time. We could never find a topic that we disagreed on and it was hectic. I thought of a way that we could perhaps deal with that. If we and our opponent can find a topic that we disagree on why don't we try this.

We pick a topic we do agree on and each person has a select amount of days to collect as much information as they can on the subject, every quote, guidebook, whatever that might be and then each person (or group if we're doing teams) sends that information to the judges who then see which person or group actually expressed the topic and answers the best and most proficient way.

So for example someone or group posts quotes, however the other person or group posts both quotes and guidebook references, showing that they were able understand collect more information about the topic. It also means that once you give your response to the judges, that's it so if you find something else or you made a mistake, too bad.
That's a great idea because it's not necessarily who can prove their point in such a subjective series like this but who can convey their argument in the most effective manner. That's why I said concision and clarity should be judging points because it's not about the argument actually being correct as much at is who can convey the argument in the most efficient manner possible.

Example; two debaters agree on an issue like SSj(2) Gohan vs Dabura. One guy collects manga statements, feats and Daizenshuu references but it's an entirely incoherent mess while his opponent collects just statements and feats but is able to convey his point with precision, clarity and even address common counter arguments. They both agree on the issue but one is much more effective because the way his argument is actually formatted and addressed despite not having as many references supporting his actual argument.

This is me personally, but I'd take a good argument that has a solid framework over a messy argument with more sources listed. Granted I'm not suggesting that more information=bad because you want to give an argument the most strength it possibly can have, it's just having all meat and no bone doesn't constitute an effective argument in my opinion.

I'm a terrible example of this, if you couldn't tell by THIS^ post haha :T_T:
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I try, xD.

Anyways if for whatever reason we can't get an 8th person (cause I don't want to wait too long for someone if possible, again another problem we faced is that the tournament gets ready and then it takes like two weeks to get started)

We do as I said before, the whole send information to the judges. However the topics we get are random, meaning we have no control on what they are, so this could be movies, Z, GT, early Dragon Ball, etc. Either each person gets the same topic, or each person gets a separate topic (I'd go more for the former but up to all of you)

Each person does as I said, gives out information to the judges. However in this case, it's a knockout round and after each round, the person the judges feel have delivered the least amount of credible evidence to their side is knocked out and we continue that option until we get 4 people, then we can get an debate against one another from there, just to have something of an option.
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Interesting idea. And then after the match is judged, perhaps the evidence could be posted in a topic for the forum to see?
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So, when do we start?
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Did we even get that last person?
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Dec 24 2013, 04:47 AM
However the topics we get are random, meaning we have no control on what they are, so this could be movies, Z, GT, early Dragon Ball, etc
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OT : We're still waiting on the last participant.
Edited by Yu Narukami, Dec 25 2013, 04:21 PM.
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My main worry are Dragonball questions and GT questions, save for the Shadow Dragon Saga as i'm not familiar with those compared to Z
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Don't worry, we all have our weaknesses. I've never seen M2, M4, M9, or any of the Dragonball films, so if I was asked about those I would be screwed. Plus I haven't seen many of the movies in years
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We're still waiting on 1 person lol. Brofist recommended we start but how do we do that? Give someone a by? What does everything prefer, tag teams or singles?

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I'm fine with either solo or teams. And sure, we could give one person a by, at least into the second round. However, if we do teams, 7 people will leave one team at a disadvantage.
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They'd have a 1 by advantage though. However, the final would be 2 on 1 which is kinda weird.

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"I am the bone of my sword."

Unless we get that one other person, I suggest we stick with Singles.
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