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Debate Tournament Over the Break
Topic Started: Dec 23 2013, 04:14 AM (9,496 Views)
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Another issue I wanted to bring up was copy-pasting other people's arguments. Just like in school if you plagiarize someone, you get docked points or simply disqualified...should the same apply here?

For instance, say there was a previous debate (not in a tournament setting, just a general thread here or another forum) where Fred argued that South Kaioshin was at least equal to SSj3 Goku. Fast forward to a tournament like this and Bruce is arguing the same thing. Bruce literally copy-pastes Fred's exact words without rephrasing or making it his own somehow.

Should Bruce be penalized for that action? Now, I know this is an anime and not an academic debate, but I think a certain level of courtesy should be maintained. I know when I summon some great points in a debate or make a huge post, and then see someone else copy-pasting it without giving me any credit, it's a bit, what's the word? I dunno, but you guys get my point, right?

I'm probably making too much of a big deal out of this. I'm just thinking. Don't take it too seriously.
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nah people are just be resourceful i suppose

i mean if its a few points but the whole argument maybe so kp wanna talk in CC
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You bring up a good point Pyro.
I don't see the problem with using them as your own personal reference for your argument, but copying and pasting is plagiarism, and probably shouldn't count for points in favor of your argument, regardless if you're right or not.

A debate tournament isn't so much about proving the other person wrong, a debate tournament is an exploitation of your argumentative skills by using source material. Copying and Pasting does not require any skill, and indeed shouldn't count in this respect.
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Havoc_Wreaker
Jan 1 2014, 01:40 AM
nah people are just be resourceful i suppose

i mean if its a few points but the whole argument maybe so kp wanna talk in CC

We can but I already PM'd you my thoughts, bro.
Ketchupis Ultionis
Jan 1 2014, 01:46 AM
You bring up a good point Pyro.
I don't see the problem with using them as your own personal reference for your argument, but copying and pasting is plagiarism, and probably shouldn't count for points in favor of your argument, regardless if you're right or not.

A debate tournament isn't so much about proving the other person wrong, a debate tournament is an exploitation of your argumentative skills by using source material. Copying and Pasting does not require any skill, and indeed shouldn't count in this respect.
Yes, agreed so very much.

I've submitted my thoughts to Pete and Havoc. Just waiting on their responses now.
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any idea on when these will go up?
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I'm thinking tonight.
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I probably wont see them till tomorrow, then :(
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Same here, man. Same here.

#UKtroubles
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lol uk troubles

yeah theres one debate thats really close and hard to pick a winner
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I've came to my conclusion. Am I supposed to the vote in this thread or the actual debate thread?
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I'd say in the actual debate.
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Yeh just post it in the actual thread when you're done.

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Okay, I posted in the #18 vs Kids debate. It's late over here so I'll probably post my vote for the Piccolo debate sometime tomorrow. Lemme know if I formatted my vote wrong or over looked something or did anything wrong. I'm a newbie guiz ;0
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Wow did not see that coming. I thought we were in for a verbal beating by the judges. The next topic is hard for me, as I actually wanted to watch pros tackle it. I'm still not 100% on my stance for the topic which is :

Pre Majin Vegeta vs Kid Gohan

If you judges are ready with the results for the other thread then post it on their thread. If not take your time

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it was close but that extra POV and clarity really helped and went a long way it seems from not only me but all the judges

kudos to both teams we all have our results for the other debate but seems were going to post em in the morning or something seeing as they wont see it till tomorrow anyways
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