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Piccolo (arrival on namek) vs Nail; Piccolo after King Kais planet without Nail
Topic Started: Dec 22 2013, 09:44 PM (2,523 Views)
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Piccolo arrives on Namek after being wished back to life and Nail has not faced freiza yet and the too nameks decide to spar before fusing who wins?
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Nail finds Piccolo's power unbelievable when he arrived on Namek. Piccolo is a kami compared to him.
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Seanerrr
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so could Piccolo have defeated Freiza 1st form without Nail?
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no. that's why nail convinced him to fuse, because he knew piccolo alone was not enough.
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Piccolo should be at 150k when he arrived on Namek. Nail's power is nothing compared to him.
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Dec 23 2013, 02:20 PM
Piccolo should be at 150k when he arrived on Namek. Nail's power is nothing compared to him
And what is this 150k based on??
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Frieza 1st form against vegeta>>Frieza 1st form against nail>>Piccolo pre nail absorbtion

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Piccolo should probably be around Gohan @ First Form Freeza. He got on Namek, sensed FP Freeza, and wanted to rush in there and help immediately. I think he would slaughter Nail.
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I think Piccolo would be quite far ahead of Nail at this point, in excess of 100k.
Nail did say he was impressed by his power but didn't think he could win against Freeza.
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Dec 23 2013, 08:06 PM
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Piccolo should be at 150k when he arrived on Namek. Nail's power is nothing compared to him
And what is this 150k based on??
Nail said Piccolo was weaker than the Frieza that he fought against. Suppressed Frieza was at 275k atleast. So therefore I have Piccolo at 150k.
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unno its just hard for me to believe Piccolo advanced that much considering he didnt even train on king kais planet and his level was already far superior then the others so the training there, if any, wouldnt have had much of an effect would it?
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I'm not so sure that Piccolo is stronger than Nail. Given the period of time on King Kai's, what Piccolo did there, the huge gap between Nail and what would then be the very next strongest Namekians on the planet, and the immediate fusion between the two.

I don't necessarily have a problem with Piccolo being stronger than Nail but I do think this is one of the very few times a change in power level can be logical (to highlight just how cocky Piccolo was at his power growth in comparison the previously highest power level he had sensed).

If I had to place Piccolo, it would be between 8000 and about 60000.
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also i know nail said he was impressed by Piccolos power but that doesnt mean hes stronger then nail, someone can be impressed by anothers power regardless of how strong they are. Goku says how impressed he is of how others have grown in power all the time and clearly hes still stronger then them.
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Chapter: 295 (DBZ 101), P1.4, P2.1-5, P3.1
Nail: “I-I’m astonished…I don’t know what kind of training you’ve done, but you’ve acquired unbelievable power…Still, it’s unfortunate…If you had only returned to the original, single Namekian you were, you might have been able to defeat even Freeza…”
Piccolo: “Are you saying that if I merged with God once again, my power would even surpass Freeza!?”
Nail: “Th-that’s right…I was overwhelmingly defeated by Freeza, but I should have a good comprehension of his abilities…[ ] So merge with me…! I’m also the only fighting-type Namekian on this planet…[ ] That’s right…Your power will become many times greater…”
Piccolo: “…You’re not lying, are you?”
Nail: “If you think so, you can just go get killed by Freeza…”

nail wasn't simply impressed by piccolo. he thought his power was unbelievable.
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This dialog does not indicate that Piccolo>Nail. It just shows that Nail is impressed. But why he would not be? He is the only one fighter on the planet with 42 000 BP while the rest of the namekians is on barely 3000. It is obvious that he would be impressed by any namekian whos power level would exceed 10 000. For me Piccolo is for sure stronger than Saiyan Arc Vegeta because he was confident enough to go to fight with an oponent who was supposed to be able to trash Vegeta. Still he was immediately astonished by Frieza power. I personally put Piccolo at this moment at the level of 35 000.
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