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Rape
Tweet Topic Started: Dec 22 2013, 06:21 AM (4,035 Views)
~~Tyrellius~~	Dec 22 2013, 11:04 PM Post #16
Posts: 6 Group: Suspended Member #10,613 Joined: December 22, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball Zq	I have no idea what you're talking about. In my dealings with people in general, I have never heard someone play off rape as more important or worse than murder, genocide, or the holocaust. That's almost absurd.



Zenet	Dec 22 2013, 11:52 PM Post #17
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	Mitas Dec 22 2013, 10:58 PM How exactly is the male the more dominating force? The same reason men who sleep with alot of women get praised by friends while women who sleep with allot men is look down upon the reason being men are more dominate sexually (penetration) and most sexual positions for men is the dominate one. Which is why we hear rape labeled mostly with men. Type in the word rapist and all you see is men there must be a biological reason for this.



* Mitas	Dec 22 2013, 11:56 PM Post #18
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Why does the penetration have to be the act? Why not the women pushing onto the penis? There are plenty of positions that involve the woman doing the 'work', namely being on top.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


+ Steve	Dec 23 2013, 12:32 AM Post #19
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Buuberries Dec 22 2013, 05:52 PM how many women do you know, exactly? every woman in scotland? would how they react to it be applicable to every other woman on the planet, and even men since men get raped? how do you know those arent just defence mechanisms? sounds like suppression or even disassociation to me. Most in this town, I don't know them all personally of course but most are pretty open about it it's not such a big deal. If you rape someone then you're vilified but women don't sit crying about it for years or show obvious signs of depression in public. I wasn't saying all women are like this I'm comparing how women are viewed here as to elsewhere, my point is that women in Scotland are more on an equal footing than other civilized places. If you want to rape a woman here you damn well better be prepared because they're just as likely to kick the s*** out of you as any man(provided they're between 18 and like 45) rather than feel helpless and scream. In other countries women are treated like they can't do anything about it, that they're too weak to do so and that just breeds mental fragility on the matter. And I'm not discussing men being raped because that doesn't much happen where I live, at least not to public knowledge. As for dominance it doesn't quite work that way, women do generally like to be dominated in a controlled manner but the act of sex isn't a man telling a woman to strip and them submitting, women are just as likely to initiate it as men. To be honest the main thing I see bad about rape is...well, why? Sex is not even that good, it's just not worth it. Unless you're so damaged that you have to rape to get off there's like no point what so ever although I guess you do need to be fairly damaged to even get an erection in that situation.
	Definitely not a succubus, fear not


~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Dec 23 2013, 06:11 AM Post #20
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Mega Sage Dec 22 2013, 11:52 PM Mitas Dec 22 2013, 10:58 PM How exactly is the male the more dominating force? The same reason men who sleep with alot of women get praised by friends while women who sleep with allot men is look down upon the reason being men are more dominate sexually (penetration) and most sexual positions for men is the dominate one. Which is why we hear rape labeled mostly with men. Type in the word rapist and all you see is men there must be a biological reason for this. You don't seem to know a whole lot about sex. Men are not more dominant during sex. They can be, of course, but that is never always the case. Sex doesn't even necessarily mean "penetration." You don't have to have penetration to have sex. And no, "most" sex positions are not male-dominant. Do you have proof of that statement? Because I can come up with loads of positions in my head. lol



* Ketchup Revenge	Dec 23 2013, 07:24 AM Post #21
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Mega Sage Dec 22 2013, 06:13 PM For a man to grope a woman is a qualitatively different experience because men are in a position to force themselves upon women in a way that women simply can't. There is no such thing as a female raping a male. Rape isn't exclusive to an insertion of a bodily organ. Rape can include objects too. For example, a woman can rape a man with an object by inserting it up his butt. That's technically rape, even if the woman isn't forcing any part of her body inside the man's. And for the record, a woman being on top and riding takes way more energy than a man thrusting. This is why women don't usually last too long on top unless they're porn stars. In other words, those b******s get paid to.
	The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him.


Zenet	Dec 23 2013, 01:57 PM Post #22
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	Quote: Rape isn't exclusive to an insertion of a bodily organ. Rape can include objects too. For example, a woman can rape a man with an object by inserting it up his butt. That's technically rape, even if the woman isn't forcing any part of her body inside the man's. I agree with you I would consider this rape. But you understand were am coming from. Quote: Sex doesn't even necessarily mean "penetration." I was excluding oral sex or touching. Quote: Do you have proof of that statement? Because I can come up with loads of positions in my head. lol Doing all the work doesn't mean being in a dominant position. Rape is (mostly) considered when a man forcefully thrusts his penis inside a women (without her will) not the other way around. Which is why you rarely see women being called rapists even if shes doing all the work forcing herself on a man (without his will). I was reading the new time magazine about rape and front cover said "The weapon of rape" and shows two grenades side by side and a knife in between symbolizing a penis. If women forcing sex upon a man is the same why didn't they show a vagina as well? Edited by Zenet, Dec 23 2013, 02:06 PM.



* Mitas	Dec 23 2013, 02:48 PM Post #23
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	The fact that you continue to state that rape is an act committed by men and that men are the dominant force in sex means that you are clearly ignorant to what everyone here is saying. There is no debating this with you because you clearly have preconceived notions about these things and are not accepting that you are wrong. Which you are. Women can rape men. Women can be dominant in sexual intercourse.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Zenet	Dec 23 2013, 03:18 PM Post #24
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	Quote: The fact that you continue to state that rape is an act committed by men. I said men forcing sex is taking much more seriously. I didn't say women don't force sex on men.



+ Pelador	Dec 23 2013, 04:03 PM Post #25
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I assure you that any act of sexual assault is treated with the utmost seriousness regardless of which gender is to blame.
	http://www.youtube.com/user/jonjits


Buuberries	Dec 23 2013, 05:14 PM Post #26
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	i think u guys are misinterpreting zenet. like it or not, but we live in a patriarchal society; men are the dominant sex, and im not talking about in bed.
	¯\(°_o)/¯


+ Pelador	Dec 23 2013, 05:33 PM Post #27
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Sexual Assault is sexual assault. It doesn't matter who does or how aggressive they were. Anyone who tries to suggest that one gender does it worse than another is ignorant. Cases of sexual assault by males may be more common place but what does that matter? It shouldn't be happening at all.
	http://www.youtube.com/user/jonjits


Buuberries	Dec 23 2013, 05:42 PM Post #28
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	well, I don't know what zenet was trying to say, but it does matter because women are going to have different views on rape as opposed to some of the guys here saying it's not as bad as people make it out to be.
	¯\(°_o)/¯


Kienzan	Dec 23 2013, 10:00 PM Post #29
+ Posts: 757 Group: Member Member #8,751 Joined: December 29, 2012 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Neon Genesis Evangelion, FMA:B, Hunter x Hunter 2011, Baccano!, Ghost in the Shell What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece, Fullmetal Alchemist, Dragonball	Buuberries Dec 23 2013, 05:14 PM i think u guys are misinterpreting zenet. like it or not, but we live in a patriarchal society; men are the dominant sex, and im not talking about in bed. I was just about to say pretty much the same thing. You guys are getting way too angry (some more than others) at him, and from what it seems, you don't even understand fully what his point actually is. @Topic: I don't think I've ever seen anyone say they think murder is better, let alone holocaust. Edited by Kienzan, Dec 23 2013, 10:33 PM.



* Mitas	Dec 23 2013, 10:34 PM Post #30
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	I understand perfectly what he's trying to say. Here are some quotes from Sage: Quote: 'For a man to grope a woman is a qualitatively different experience because men are in a position to force themselves upon women in a way that women simply can't. There is no such thing as a female raping a male.' Quote: 'the sexual act of a male is more dominating than the women's role which is what I meant as a male being raped can't be the same experience as a women being raped.' Quote: 'men are more dominate sexually (penetration) and most sexual positions for men is the dominate one' Quote: 'Rape is (mostly) considered when a man forcefully thrusts his penis inside a women (without her will) not the other way around. Which is why you rarely see women being called rapists even if shes doing all the work forcing herself on a man (without his will)' Each of these quotes seem to suggest he believes that women can no commit rape, and that men are the more dominant sexual partner. We are allowed to call him out on these suggestions, especially when at least three people, myself included, have told him that this is not the case. Women can rape. Women can be dominant in sexual intercourse. Women can and do initiate sex. Women can take the controlling and dominant role in sexual positions. And not just can: they do it a lot more often than Sage seems to think. And I would guess that his belief that this is not the case is down to inexperience in these areas.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


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