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SSj Goku (post-Yadrat) vs Future #17 (Half-Power)
Topic Started: Dec 14 2013, 05:41 AM (765 Views)
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Who wins?
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I'm still inclined to give it to future 17 after a difficult battle. Yardrat Goku was not that much stronger than Trunks, just strong enough to give him hope. Trunks could fight the Androids decently, but not evenly. So even if Goku could fight 17 evenly, he would have a very tough time. 17 has infinite stamina, and Goku has more skills at his disposal. Still giving it to 17 because I think he's got a slight power advantage.
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Not doubting you but did you see that this is Future #17 with only half of his Power (because your answer made it seem like this is Full-Power #17), l0l? Sorry that isn't meant to sound rude, but I think it does.

Wasn't it something like this:

Goku (post-Yadrat) > Trunks >~ Mirai Gohan (1-Arm) > Future #17 (Less than Half-Power)?

So I thought Goku definitely has a chance at winning this.

That's why I thought this would be a good fight.
Edited by StrawHatCrew, Dec 14 2013, 08:31 PM.
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Ah gotcha. I did forget that he was half power.

So yeah, Full Power 17/18 were the ones that Gohan died to, right? And Trunks says he could fight decently with them?

Chapter: 355 (DBZ 161), P8.5
Context: Trunks compares No.17 and No.18 in his timeline to the ones in the present
Trunks: “They weren’t as outrageously strong as this…Even I could fight them fairly well…”

The thing is, we don't know how much power the Androids were putting out against Gohan or Trunks. For the sake of argument, I'm going to say they used full power against Son Gohan. This would also mean that Trunks could fight decently with the FP Androids when he travelled back in time. If Yardrat Goku was stronger than him, wouldn't he be close to the FP Androids? I think he would be enough to beat the half power androids at least.
Edited by SSJ, Dec 14 2013, 08:54 PM.
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That quote is from after the (3 Year) Training for the (Present) Androids (so Android Arc Trunks). When Trunks 1st travelled back in time, he said this about the Androids:

Chapter: 335 (DBZ 141), P3.3-4
Goku: "For you, a Super Saiyan who instantly defeated Freeza and co., to call them monsters is really something...
Trunks "Yes...I've stood against them, but unfortunately...In any case, I'm up against two of them...Even fighting one-on-one, I could barely manage to escape..."
Edited by StrawHatCrew, Dec 14 2013, 09:05 PM.
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Android saga Trunks could fight the FOR Androids some what not trunks saga Trunks.
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miguelnuva
Dec 14 2013, 09:24 PM
Android saga Trunks could fight the FOR Androids some what not trunks saga Trunks.
Ah yes, my mistake.

I do think that my opinion remains the same though. Gohan fought them, and Bulma said to a Trunks that he was barely stronger than Gohan. Even though Gohan died to them, he was fighting two on one. I can see him fighting decently with one android who was using half power.
Gohan < Trunks < Goku, so Goku should still beat the half power android.
Edited by SSJ, Dec 14 2013, 09:51 PM.
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SSJ Yardrat Goku:200,000,000
50% 17:220,000,000-225,000,000
100% 17:440,000,000-450,000,000
Goku Gives A Fight,But Still Loses Because He Has Low Power Level And Stamina
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I think they would be close at power,but 17 still holding an advantage at Goku so he wins because of power and infinite stamina :)
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