Super Perfect Cell vs Dabura

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Super Perfect Cell vs Dabura
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DemonKingGoku	Dec 12 2013, 01:40 PM Post #1
Posts: 42 Group: Member Member #9,847 Joined: August 5, 2013	So in the manga Goku states that a few years prior Dabura would have been around Cell's level so if this is true who exactly takes that fight?
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+ Majin Vegeta	Dec 12 2013, 01:43 PM Post #2
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	DemonKingGoku Dec 12 2013, 01:40 PM So in the manga Goku states that a few years prior Dabura would have been around Cell's level so if this is true who exactly takes that fight? Dabura is on Cells Leven when he fought Goku,we saw it because Supreesed Perfect Cell@Goku~>SSj Goku CG=SSj Gohan Buu Saga(at max)=Dabura FP We literally saw it in there fight,Dabura normally gets stomped with a blow,Howveer assuming he WAS around Cell then he still loses,Cell has reneragion and is a much better fighter
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SSJ	Dec 12 2013, 02:11 PM Post #3
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Poor Dabura. Poor, poor Dabura. Even his magic, which was what made him impressive would not touch Cell. Dabura is not a SSJ 2 tier fighter, because he was fighting a rusty SSJ, and was barely winning. In fact it could be argued that he fought Gohan evenly.



lazerbem	Dec 12 2013, 02:17 PM Post #4
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	SPC shoves Dabura's own sword down his throat
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AA500	Dec 12 2013, 10:48 PM Post #5
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	For Dabura's sake, Imma say he was fighting SSJ2 Gohan. He's still gonna be getting owned by Cell. Dabura was barely above a rusty weakened Gohan. SPC was rivaling a beastly SSJ2 Gohan who was on the top of his game both skill and power wise.



Mightiest Gohan	Dec 13 2013, 07:50 PM Post #6
Posts: 1,040 Group: Member Member #10,132 Joined: September 6, 2013	Adult SSJ Gohan would kill Dabura. Super Perfect Cell would obviously one shot Dabura. Edited by Mightiest Gohan, Dec 14 2013, 01:35 PM.
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lunar2	Dec 13 2013, 08:44 PM Post #7
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	1. gohan being rusty is an anime statement, not manga. it's his power that is the problem, not his skill. he's had a month of practice to get his skills back up to par. 2. gohan was not fighting evenly. he was barely surviving, and everyone knew it. 3. goku's statement can't have been referring to suppressed cell, because he said dabura would have been trouble. suppressed cell never worried goku at all. 4. fp perfect cell has no feats that put him much higher than ssj kid gohan. he's stronger than gohan, sure, but not by much. which fits with gohan barely surviving against a cell level opponent, due to his defensive fighting style and greater than normal speed. so SPC => ssj2 kid gohan > dabura w/magic > dabura ~ fp cell => ssj kid gohan > ssj teen gohan > suppressed perfect cell to put it in numbers suppressed perfect cell 1 teen gohan 1.05 (speed and defense 1.3) kid gohan 1.3 fp cell 1.4 dabura 1.4 dabura w/ magic 1.5 ssj2 kid gohan 4 SPC 4.2 Edited by lunar2, Dec 13 2013, 09:01 PM.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


Terra Crisis XII	Dec 14 2013, 11:10 PM Post #8
Posts: 64 Group: Member Member #10,573 Joined: December 14, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball, Attack On Titan, Berserk, Magi Favourite Manga AOT, Kokoro Connect, Sword Art Online	lunar2 Dec 13 2013, 08:44 PM 1. gohan being rusty is an anime statement, not manga. it's his power that is the problem, not his skill. he's had a month of practice to get his skills back up to par. 2. gohan was not fighting evenly. he was barely surviving, and everyone knew it. 3. goku's statement can't have been referring to suppressed cell, because he said dabura would have been trouble. suppressed cell never worried goku at all. 4. fp perfect cell has no feats that put him much higher than ssj kid gohan. he's stronger than gohan, sure, but not by much. which fits with gohan barely surviving against a cell level opponent, due to his defensive fighting style and greater than normal speed. so SPC => ssj2 kid gohan > dabura w/magic > dabura ~ fp cell => ssj kid gohan > ssj teen gohan > suppressed perfect cell to put it in numbers suppressed perfect cell 1 teen gohan 1.05 (speed and defense 1.3) kid gohan 1.3 fp cell 1.4 dabura 1.4 dabura w/ magic 1.5 ssj2 kid gohan 4 SPC 4.2 You can't call someone out on an anime statement vs manga statement and do the same thing, "gohan being rusty is an anime statement" Well Goku saying Dabura would be trouble is also an anime statement, in the manga goku said dabura would be a strong opponent that doesn't necessarily mean he would be trouble. But Goku did say Dabura was about the same level as cell so you're right there haha :] "Link Edited Out, please remember not to post any links to manga sites on here. If you wan to show an image, paste that image here alone"-Sir Brofist Edited by Sir Brofist, Dec 14 2013, 11:51 PM.



lunar2	Dec 14 2013, 11:47 PM Post #9
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	sorry, got confused on the exact wording, but here it is. Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5, P3.1-4 Context: after Kaioshin again warns against unleashing Boo Vegeta: “Hmph…The way things are going, this ‘Majin Boo’ guy isn’t going to be anything special, is he? Just like that ‘Dabra’ jerk…[ ] I’m saying that this ‘Dabra’ guy doesn’t seem as bad as you two feared. Looking at his attacks and movement outside earlier, it seems that if we just watch out for his spit, then we should manage something. I can’t call Kibito anything but a bumbler for getting done-in like that…” Kaioshin: “…Is-is that true, Son Goku?...” Goku: “Yeah…Well, even if that wasn’t him at full force…I think that before he would have been a frightening opponent, but…7 years ago there was a guy called ‘Cell’…[Dabra]’s probably about as strong as him…” still, goku wasn't scared of suppressed perfect cell, so the point still stands.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


EMIYA	Dec 14 2013, 11:52 PM Post #10
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	@ TerraCrisisXIII, please don't post links to other manga hosting sites. This is against the forum rules. If you want to show a specific image or something, please paste that specific image itself and not the link. Thank you. -Sir Brofist



Terra Crisis XII	Dec 14 2013, 11:57 PM Post #11
Posts: 64 Group: Member Member #10,573 Joined: December 14, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball, Attack On Titan, Berserk, Magi Favourite Manga AOT, Kokoro Connect, Sword Art Online	Sir Brofist Dec 14 2013, 11:52 PM @ TerraCrisisXIII, please don't post links to other manga hosting sites. This is against the forum rules. If you want to show a specific image or something, please paste that specific image itself and not the link. Thank you. -Sir Brofist sorry about that ^_^;; wasn't sure how to post the picture.



EMIYA	Dec 14 2013, 11:58 PM Post #12
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Just take the image and then host it on Photobucket or something, that's what I usually do.



* Ketchup Revenge	Dec 14 2013, 11:59 PM Post #13
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	lunar2 Dec 13 2013, 08:44 PM 1. gohan being rusty is an anime statement, not manga. it's his power that is the problem, not his skill. he's had a month of practice to get his skills back up to par. I beg to differ considering he was training with a six year old kid. I can't imagine Goten's strategical skill really challenged and developed Gohan's to where it would've been seven years prior when he fought Cell. I honestly am willing to bet that he had a lapse in both.
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lunar2	Dec 15 2013, 12:05 AM Post #14
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	that's your opinion, though. it isn't supported by the manga. and besides. i can play ping pong pretty well, once i get back into it. it doesn't matter how good my opponent is, give me a few hours to get back into it, and i'm nearly up to 100% on skill, because i'm not learning new skills, i'm just getting back into the old mindset. this is exactly what gohan was doing. he's not learning new combat skills, he's simply refreshing skills he already had.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


+ Majin Vegeta	Dec 15 2013, 11:07 AM Post #15
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	lunar2 Dec 13 2013, 08:44 PM 2. gohan was not fighting evenly. he was barely surviving, and everyone knew it. Sooo?its obvious Dabura couldn't oneshot him at all there gap is below 1.2x times,and is supported by Gohan breaking he's sword,on the other hand Cell was beating up badly MSSj Kid Gohan while been Supressed and then powered up again,sorry but Dabura is not equal to FPPC
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