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Bills and Whis vs Super 17
Topic Started: Dec 9 2013, 11:01 PM (4,198 Views)
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Bills and Whis tag-team Super 17(Pre-Absorptions). Who wins?

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Bills and Whis are IC which means they will not be going for the kill initially
Super 17 can absorb ki blasts as needed to get stronger
Whis can't use his pole
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Bills is at most above SSj3 Vegito,I can see him matching SSj4 Goku Baby Arc
Whis is 1.5x times stronger than Bills,according to Toriyamas numbers
Let's say he is on Gokus level Baby arc,when he powered up
Now we know Base Vegeta@Super 17=SBV2~>Majuub so SSj2 Vegeta@Super 17 should he very close if not equal to SSj4 Goku Baby saga,thus close to Bills,I think 17 pre absorptions has a 2x times gap on SSj2 Vegeta,so I guess if Bills and Whis fight together,normally they could take him out,especially with there godly abilities
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I think Bills and Whis would win. Hate on me, IDGAF.
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Dec 9 2013, 11:05 PM
Bills is at most above SSj3 Vegito,I can see him matching SSj4 Goku Baby Arc
Whis is 1.5x times stronger than Bills,according to Toriyamas numbers
Let's say he is on Gokus level Baby arc,when he powered up
Now we know Base Vegeta@Super 17=SBV2~>Majuub so SSj2 Vegeta@Super 17 should he very close if not equal to SSj4 Goku Baby saga,thus close to Bills,I think 17 pre absorptions has a 2x times gap on SSj2 Vegeta,so I guess if Bills and Whis fight together,normally they could take him out,especially with there godly abilities
Would Bills and Whis be careless enough to feed Super 17 energy?
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This tag team would probably be able to beat SSJ 2 Vegetto, but no more. Someone of SSJ 3 Vegetto's class would probably annihilate them both at once. Then Oozaru Baby, SSJ 4 Goku, and finally Super 17 are all much stronger than SSJ 3 Vegetto.
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Super No.17 wouldn't have to lift a finger to obliterate both of these fools. BoG is way overrated.
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Dec 10 2013, 01:17 AM
Vegeta SSj4
Dec 9 2013, 11:05 PM
Bills is at most above SSj3 Vegito,I can see him matching SSj4 Goku Baby Arc
Whis is 1.5x times stronger than Bills,according to Toriyamas numbers
Let's say he is on Gokus level Baby arc,when he powered up
Now we know Base Vegeta@Super 17=SBV2~>Majuub so SSj2 Vegeta@Super 17 should he very close if not equal to SSj4 Goku Baby saga,thus close to Bills,I think 17 pre absorptions has a 2x times gap on SSj2 Vegeta,so I guess if Bills and Whis fight together,normally they could take him out,especially with there godly abilities
Would Bills and Whis be careless enough to feed Super 17 energy?


Yeah why not,there skill and minds don't seem to be that great :p
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Dec 10 2013, 02:41 AM
Super No.17 wouldn't have to lift a finger to obliterate both of these fools. BoG is way overrated.

And whys that?why is BOG overrated at all

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Or maybe Vegito is EVEN more overrated. Birusu is the strongest in Z history barring Whis.

On topic, Birusu and Whis are not fools they keenly observe what happens during fights, and with both being master and student they could formulate good tag stratagies.
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Dec 10 2013, 06:26 PM
Or maybe Vegito is EVEN more overrated. Birusu is the strongest in Z history barring Whis.

On topic, Birusu and Whis are not fools they keenly observe what happens during fights, and with both being master and student they could formulate good tag stratagies.
The same Birusu who throws tantrums like a toddler? He has some skill with pressure points but mostly, he used brute force to fight
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Vegeta SSj4
Dec 10 2013, 06:25 PM
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Dec 10 2013, 01:17 AM
Vegeta SSj4
Dec 9 2013, 11:05 PM
Bills is at most above SSj3 Vegito,I can see him matching SSj4 Goku Baby Arc
Whis is 1.5x times stronger than Bills,according to Toriyamas numbers
Let's say he is on Gokus level Baby arc,when he powered up
Now we know Base Vegeta@Super 17=SBV2~>Majuub so SSj2 Vegeta@Super 17 should he very close if not equal to SSj4 Goku Baby saga,thus close to Bills,I think 17 pre absorptions has a 2x times gap on SSj2 Vegeta,so I guess if Bills and Whis fight together,normally they could take him out,especially with there godly abilities
Would Bills and Whis be careless enough to feed Super 17 energy?


Yeah why not,there skill and minds don't seem to be that great :p
Darth Pyrus
Dec 10 2013, 02:41 AM
Super No.17 wouldn't have to lift a finger to obliterate both of these fools. BoG is way overrated.

And whys that?why is BOG overrated at all


Beerus >>> SSj4 Gogeta?
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Dec 10 2013, 06:26 PM
Or maybe Vegito is EVEN more overrated. Birusu is the strongest in Z history barring Whis.

On topic, Birusu and Whis are not fools they keenly observe what happens during fights, and with both being master and student they could formulate good tag stratagies.

Vegetto is overrated, supremely. That doesn't mean BoG isn't as well.
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Well did I ever said Bills>SSj4 Gogeta :) ?
No I didn't I just think it makes perfect sense from him yo be above SSj3 Vegito
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Dec 10 2013, 08:04 PM
Well did I ever said Bills>SSj4 Gogeta :) ?
No I didn't I just think it makes perfect sense from him yo be above SSj3 Vegito
What for? He is stronger than Vegetto, why would you turn this into SSJ 3 Vegetto?
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Because he was never even mentioned in the movie as a possibility to take down Bills,after SSjG seems to be unreachable by Goku,they started mentioning thinks(even Tarble)
Bills wanted a challenge and a good fight ,if Vegito was stronger than him as a SSj2 like you guys say,then its obvious that Vegito would form,we saw the earrings existing, even though we know that in the manga they were both crushed
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Yes the earrings existed we, the viewers know that, but how do we know that Goku knew the Kaioshin created new ones? He probably didn't know. Besides, it's apparent that Goku was quite interested in the whole Super Saiyan God thing.
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Dec 10 2013, 10:00 PM
Yes the earrings existed we, the viewers know that, but how do we know that Goku knew the Kaioshin created new ones? He probably didn't know. Besides, it's apparent that Goku was quite interested in the whole Super Saiyan God thing.
-Kaioshin can just like....talk to them or at King Kai to tell Goku same way it was suppose to happen with Kid Buu(until he blew up earth :p )
-False Goku did not like SSjG,remember he stated that in Bills he was disagisfied by the whole think"borrow everyone's powers"
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