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Piano vs Giran
Topic Started: Dec 7 2013, 08:28 PM (1,019 Views)
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Who takes this?
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Giran. Piano is a trash not designed for fighting.
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Piano gets played like a...piano.
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I don't think Piano is a fighter at all,I consider him very weak as a power level,since he didint show me anything to put him on Girans level who was comparable with Goku at some point :)
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Well Giran wasn't ever comparable to Goku. Giran was probably the weakest 21st Budokai finalist. And also keep in mind just how powerful everyone had become after the 22nd budokai, so I don't see it being a stretch to say that this demon Namek was as strong as Giran (21st).
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Dec 8 2013, 10:23 PM
Well Giran wasn't ever comparable to Goku. Giran was probably the weakest 21st Budokai finalist. And also keep in mind just how powerful everyone had become after the 22nd budokai, so I don't see it being a stretch to say that this demon Namek was as strong as Giran (21st).
No that title belongs to either Ranfan or Bacterian. IMO Giran is at least comparable to Yamcha (based on what was shown in the filler before his fight with Goku). Not to mention that he threw Goku from the ring well into the city.

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Piano isn't even a fighter. A better fight would've been 20% Drum vs Giran or Colonel Silver vs Giran.
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bacterian is definitely the weakest 21st finalist. but giran isn't much higher. he's got a good throwing arm, but he's not much in a fight without his spit.
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Giran is stronger than Bacterian and Ranfan.

Piano gets killed when King Piccolo gets thrown on-top of him. Kinda says it all.
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Even though Giran is the weakest of the comparators he is still one :p
Piano was killed by King Piccolos weight
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Is it possible that Piano could be stronger because of him/her/it appearing in a later arc?

Answer me this as well: Did Piano ever attempt to go and help fight or did he/she/it sit around and praise King Piccolo the entire time?
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Professor Gohan
Dec 12 2013, 07:16 AM
Is it possible that Piano could be stronger because of him/her/it appearing in a later arc?

Answer me this as well: Did Piano ever attempt to go and help fight or did he/she/it sit around and praise King Piccolo the entire time?
I don't think so
He's a sub villain there's no reason you have him stronger than 21th budokai guys,he was killed by King Piccolos weight :)
For example-Pui Pui was introduced later on the series,could he beat 17?i don't think so ^_^

@He was Praising Picclo the whole time if I remember correctly,no mentions about fighting capabilities
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Dec 12 2013, 01:22 PM
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Dec 12 2013, 07:16 AM
Is it possible that Piano could be stronger because of him/her/it appearing in a later arc?

Answer me this as well: Did Piano ever attempt to go and help fight or did he/she/it sit around and praise King Piccolo the entire time?
I don't think so
He's a sub villain there's no reason you have him stronger than 21th budokai guys,he was killed by King Piccolos weight :)
For example-Pui Pui was introduced later on the series,could he beat 17?i don't think so ^_^

@He was Praising Picclo the whole time if I remember correctly,no mentions about fighting capabilities
I have Pui Pui the most powerful Android 17.
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Dec 12 2013, 01:22 PM
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Dec 12 2013, 07:16 AM
Is it possible that Piano could be stronger because of him/her/it appearing in a later arc?

Answer me this as well: Did Piano ever attempt to go and help fight or did he/she/it sit around and praise King Piccolo the entire time?
I don't think so
He's a sub villain there's no reason you have him stronger than 21th budokai guys,he was killed by King Piccolos weight :)
For example-Pui Pui was introduced later on the series,could he beat 17?i don't think so ^_^

@He was Praising Picclo the whole time if I remember correctly,no mentions about fighting capabilities
actually, pui pui could probably beat #17. if base saiyans > piccolo, then pui pui is most likely at least as powerful as piccolo.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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For me Pui Pupi is at Ginyu level tops, so.
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Dec 13 2013, 01:11 AM
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Dec 12 2013, 01:22 PM
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Dec 12 2013, 07:16 AM
Is it possible that Piano could be stronger because of him/her/it appearing in a later arc?

Answer me this as well: Did Piano ever attempt to go and help fight or did he/she/it sit around and praise King Piccolo the entire time?
I don't think so
He's a sub villain there's no reason you have him stronger than 21th budokai guys,he was killed by King Piccolos weight :)
For example-Pui Pui was introduced later on the series,could he beat 17?i don't think so ^_^

@He was Praising Picclo the whole time if I remember correctly,no mentions about fighting capabilities
actually, pui pui could probably beat #17. if base saiyans > piccolo, then pui pui is most likely at least as powerful as piccolo.
Even so he can't compete with someone as Semi Perfect Cell no can he ;) ?
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