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Dec 6 2013, 08:56 PM Post #1 |
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Match 1 - SSj2 Vegetto vs Beerus Match 2 - SSj3 Vegetto vs Beerus Who Wins? |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Dec 6 2013, 09:05 PM Post #2 |
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Beerus takes Ssj3 Vegetto with roughly 50% of his maximum. |
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| SSJ | Dec 6 2013, 09:07 PM Post #3 |
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I think SSJ 2 Vegetto can take this. Birusu only needs to be stronger than Super Vegetto, not by a large margin. The 2x boost from SSJ 2 should cover this. |
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| OmegaSaiyan2 | Dec 6 2013, 09:14 PM Post #4 |
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SSJ2 Vegito Stomps SSJ3 Vegito Would Be Massive Overkill Bills >= Super Vegetto SSJ3 Vegetto vs Wiss Would Be A Better Match-Up |
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| SSJ | Dec 6 2013, 09:15 PM Post #5 |
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Toriyama stated that Whis was only 1.5x stronger than Birusu. SSJ 2 Vegetto may even take Whis down in a tough fight. |
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| + Solid Snake | Dec 6 2013, 11:22 PM Post #6 |
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滅Are you frightened?
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Where was this? |
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| SSJ | Dec 6 2013, 11:29 PM Post #7 |
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http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/battle-gods-animanga-akira-toriyama/ Edited by SSJ, Dec 6 2013, 11:32 PM.
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| + Solid Snake | Dec 7 2013, 12:04 AM Post #8 |
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This is not solid though it's just a rough estimate to give us the difference between Birusu and SSJG's power. It's not at all concrete but I guess I'll have to deal but on the other hand that 10 is not at all definite because if he stronger than SSJ Vegito at the least, then he has to be in the 200 million to 100 billion range to distant him from 150 million (likely around trillions), Frieza's power level. SSJ Vegito could be close, mid, or far from this observant but Birusu would either be: Weaker than SSJ2 and 3 Vegito because some believe his SSJ state is the one that's reference. Stronger than SSJ2 or 3 Vegito because some believe since his possible higher states weren't reference then he'd still lose. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Dec 7 2013, 02:35 AM Post #9 |
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I just go with some good ol' logic when it comes to Birusu. Stronger than SSJ Vegetto, and stronger than a hypothetical SSJ3 Gogeta at the time BOG is set. I'd wager SSJ3 Gogeta is inbetween SSJ1 and SSJ2 Vegetto at that point. So i'd put Birusu at max somewhere in the SSJ2 Vegetto range most likely stronger. Whiss probably being at SSJ3 Vegetto level. Godku leaning more towards SSJ2 Vegetto range but still close to Birusu. I'd imagine SSJ3 Vegetto would beat Birusu. |
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| + Solid Snake | Dec 7 2013, 02:42 AM Post #10 |
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I like your thinking, how much power do you think SSJ3 Vegito would need to win? I personally have him using about 70% because Birusu used the same amount on Goku and they both were above SSJ Vegito, but imo, since Vegito wasn't brought up around the same time the concept of SSJG, I have Birusu and SSJG Goku less than half of their full power (about 20 - 45%). And SSJ2 doesn't dramatically give them a huge boost but it's noticeable. |
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| + Majin Vegeta | Dec 7 2013, 12:33 PM Post #11 |
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I have hi stronger than a Hypothetical SSj3 Vegito The Z fighters never mention any type of fusion,that includes Potara as well,we know there were still Potara sets(Kibitokai)I think it makes sense since SSjG seemed impossimble to been achieve at soe time,Goku or Old Kai or someone will mention fusion,since no one said anything at all,I think Bills>Vegito in any form at the time |
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| OmegaSaiyan2 | Dec 8 2013, 01:02 AM Post #12 |
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Wiss knocked Bills Of A Hit,He Would Be Somewhere Between SSJ2 And SSJ3 Vegetto Or A Bit Weaker Than SSJ3 SSJ Vegetto =< Bills <<< SSJ2 Vegetto << Wiss << SSJ3 Vegetto Or SSJ Vegetto =< Bills <<<<< SSJ2 Vegetto <<<< Wiss =< SSJ3 Vegetto [/quote] |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Dec 8 2013, 01:53 AM Post #13 |
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[/quote]You don't need some extravagant 3-4x gap in order to one shot someone. as we've seen in the Bootenks vs Ultimate Gohan fight, you only need about a 1.4x gap in order to completely dominate another fighter. 1.6x for one shotting is good. |
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| AA500 | Dec 8 2013, 02:01 AM Post #14 |
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[/quote]He didn't knock out Bills in one hit, Whis cheap shotted him but Bills was still conscious after he did. You don't even have to be stronger than someone to knock them out with a sucker punch, this is shown when Majin Vegeta knocked out Goku Edited by AA500, Dec 8 2013, 05:11 AM.
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| SSJ | Dec 8 2013, 05:08 AM Post #15 |
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Author's word is worth more than your "gaps/power scaling". Edited by SSJ, Dec 8 2013, 05:09 AM.
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