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SSJ Vegeta vs Frieza 100%
Topic Started: Nov 29 2013, 03:10 PM (1,139 Views)
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What if Vegeta went SSJ on Namek? Would his power be enough to defeat Frieza's 100%?
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Well I have Vegeta at 2.500.000 so with calculations he is above 100% Frieza so I think he can take this :)
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Oh heck no, if Freeza himself can rival SSJ Goku and fight him practically blow for blow, then there's no way I can see the very significantly weaker Vegeta doing anything regardless of how bad Freeza's stamina might be.
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Vegeta is maximum 2,200,000 here, so no. Freeza was at his absolute very best just short of SSJ Goku.

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Nov 29 2013, 04:44 PM
Oh heck no, if Freeza himself can rival SSJ Goku and fight him practically blow for blow, then there's no way I can see the very significantly weaker Vegeta doing anything regardless of how bad Freeza's stamina might be.
Frieza only matched goku blow for blow in the anime. In the manga he only managed to land a couple hits
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Ignoring Freeza's first onslaught which we know both guys were basically going easy.

1.) Freeza charges at Goku and avoids a strike from Goku, flying up and releasing a kai on Goku.

2.) Freeza tries to punch Goku but is avoided, Goku bashes his head against Freeza, breaks his wrist and then throws him against the sky.

3.) The KHH/Barrier battle starts with Freeza pushing his way down before flying outward and slamming Goku into the sea.

4.) After the whole wish business, Freeza lands an elbow while Goku lands a knee.

5.) Goku lands his devastating gut punch while Freeza retaliates with a chop and a kick.

6.) Goku flies out with a kick, Freeza dodges the first one, then gets hit by the second foot.

7. Goku lands another 3 more blows and then declares the fight over.

# of hits for Goku: 8

# of Hits for Freeza: 5

Most of Goku's attacks were not only combination moves but his last one was done an already weakened Freeza as it was. Despite this, Freeza was still giving in good hits and managed to even keep up with Goku's KHH with his barrier. It certainly shows that as long as Freeza's stamina was steady, he was more than ready to match up against Goku.[/quote]No, he even does it in the manga. I personally checked. The only time Goku actually gets a real advantage over Freeza is at the very end when his stamina has gotten too low. He lands a quick combo on Freeza and then decides Freeza's not worth it anymore.

Before then, every time Goku lands a punch, Freeza lands a punch. They are basically neck and neck to each other, countering one's blow with another blow.
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Vegeta ends up just a tiny hair below Freeza's full power by my estimates (115 mil to Freeza's 120). Vegeta's got a good shot at winning the fight already, but it becomes easy if he can just hold out and stall until Freeza's 100% starts to drain his power away. Once that happens, Freeza's easy pickings.
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He would fall a bit shorter than Frieza by my calculations but not enough to not make the fight even.. So we would basically have an even Vegeta vs Frieza... and no matter how much i love Vegeta, that guy is arrogant as hell. But then again, we have only seen him fight evenly with someone once and that was against SSJ 2 Goku so i have no idea how this fight would have ended
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Freeza's capable of matching SSj Goku in short bursts, but there's something about his 100% that doesn't allow him to keep that pace for very long. Hence, why Goku originally quit their fight. Freeza had "burned out his ki" and thus, his PL was dropping.

Going by official multiplies, I also have Vegeta a tad bit below Freeza, but unless Freeza can pull off a devestating blow pretty fast, I don't see him winning. Super Saiyan gives Vegeta the convenience of using a higher power with more stability, while Freeza obviously isn't stable using a power higher than his base (which is most likely, what we know as his 50%) for extended periods of time.
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Nov 29 2013, 07:57 PM
Freeza's capable of matching SSj Goku in short bursts, but there's something about his 100% that doesn't allow him to keep that pace for very long. Hence, why Goku originally quit their fight. Freeza had "burned out his ki" and thus, his PL was dropping.

Going by official multiplies, I also have Vegeta a tad bit below Freeza, but unless Freeza can pull off a devestating blow pretty fast, I don't see him winning. Super Saiyan gives Vegeta the convenience of using a higher power with more stability, while Freeza obviously isn't stable using a power higher than his base (which is most likely, what we know as his 50%) for extended periods of time.
The Nova Strike could be that killing blow. It knocked SSJ Goku on his a*** and was apparently supposed to kill him, judging by Frieza's thinking that Goku was a zombie for surviving.

I have Frieza winning, in a battle similar to First Form Zarbon vs Vegeta.
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I have SSJ Vegeta at 120 mil with Frieza rivaling Goku at 145mil. Frieza's strain shouldn't be too much of a factor and even if it is it likely lower to 120mil as well whereas Vegeta would be lowered due to Frieza's power advantage.
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Vegeta: 2,400,000
Vegeta (Super saiyan): 120,000,000
Freeza: 120,000,000

Can go either way. I think Vegeta wins by time.
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Dec 1 2013, 07:52 PM
Vegeta: 2,400,000
Vegeta (Super saiyan): 120,000,000
Freeza: 120,000,000

Can go either way. I think Vegeta wins by time.
This is the same Frieza who smashed 150,000,000 Goku into the ground, right? Frieza held his own far better than 120,000,000 should have. Either Frieza is higher than that or Frieza is an ungodlily good fighter
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Smash into the ground? When? He barely did anything.
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Dec 2 2013, 12:08 AM
Smash into the ground? When? He barely did anything.
The Nova Strike. Heck, Frieza was elbowing Goku and dodging his hits even after he lost power. Frieza and Goku were neck and neck the entire battle, each countering each other's hits. The battle only failed when Frieza lost power from stamina
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