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Hercule vs Saibamen
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* Ketchup Revenge	Nov 29 2013, 08:16 PM Post #16
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	lunar2 Nov 29 2013, 08:14 PM that's physical strength, not ki based power. remember he hadn't had extensive ki training yet, and at that level of ki your physical abilities are more important than how much ki you have. I'm aware of that, but if I may point out, you were just talking about the farmer and his physical labor, which also has nothing to do with ki.
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lunar2	Nov 29 2013, 08:23 PM Post #17
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	it increases his genki, which indirectly increases his ki. someone with a high genki is going to have a relatively high ki, but the two aren't directly proportional in any way.
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* Ketchup Revenge	Nov 29 2013, 08:26 PM Post #18
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	lunar2 Nov 29 2013, 08:23 PM it increases his genki, which indirectly increases his ki. someone with a high genki is going to have a relatively high ki, but the two aren't directly proportional in any way. Goku's martial arts lifestyle would also strengthen his genki by that logic.
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Mightiest Gohan	Nov 29 2013, 08:26 PM Post #19
Posts: 1,040 Group: Member Member #10,132 Joined: September 6, 2013	Hercule is around 25 and Saibamen is about 1,200 so Saibamen one shots Hercule.
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Mihawk	Nov 29 2013, 08:26 PM Post #20
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	DB PLs are misleading. Someone can have a higher PL and not be able to tank bullets than someone who has a lower PL and can because of Sayian durability.



lunar2	Nov 29 2013, 08:32 PM Post #21
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	what saiyan durability? krillin was bulletproof, too. @ketchup revenge. yes, and that is why goku has a pl of 10 despite not being ki trained. roshi's version of hard work > martial arts > normal hard work > normal human.
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+ Clearin	Nov 29 2013, 08:46 PM Post #22
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	lunar2 Nov 29 2013, 08:32 PM what saiyan durability? krillin was bulletproof, too. @ketchup revenge. yes, and that is why goku has a pl of 10 despite not being ki trained. roshi's version of hard work > martial arts > normal hard work > normal human. Krillin was scared of the cops with guns. I'm not usually one to go with the "gag scene" excuse, but it's hard to take his survival feat literally when earlier in that same chapter he was like: Chapter: 26, P11.1 Context: talking about rescuing Lunch from the police Kuririn: “It’d look pretty cool if we rescued her, but…W-we’re still not good enough…And they’ve got guns too…” Anyway even the biggest Mr Satan haxers wouldn't put him on Raditz level. Saibaman stomps effortlessly.



+ Emmeth	Nov 29 2013, 08:50 PM Post #23
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	6. Son Goku [#DRA#GOK] Chapter: 1, P12.6 Context: After being shot by Bulma and surviving Goku: “Moron! You think I’d die from just that?!! My body is forged like stainless steel!!” This may also suggest different training styles. Whereas Satan might focus blindly on offense, Goku's training probably had elements of defense. Son-Gohan wouldn't train Goku in only offense.
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lunar2	Nov 29 2013, 11:52 PM Post #24
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	Clearin Nov 29 2013, 08:46 PM lunar2 Nov 29 2013, 08:32 PM what saiyan durability? krillin was bulletproof, too. @ketchup revenge. yes, and that is why goku has a pl of 10 despite not being ki trained. roshi's version of hard work > martial arts > normal hard work > normal human. Krillin was scared of the cops with guns. I'm not usually one to go with the "gag scene" excuse, but it's hard to take his survival feat literally when earlier in that same chapter he was like: Chapter: 26, P11.1 Context: talking about rescuing Lunch from the police Kuririn: “It’d look pretty cool if we rescued her, but…W-we’re still not good enough…And they’ve got guns too…” Anyway even the biggest Mr Satan haxers wouldn't put him on Raditz level. Saibaman stomps effortlessly. it would be a gag scene if him being scared of guns came after being shot. just because you are bulletproof doesn't mean you know you are bulletproof.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 30 2013, 11:45 AM Post #25
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+ Emmeth	Nov 30 2013, 12:15 PM Post #26
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Vegeta SSj4 Nov 30 2013, 11:45 AM I have see people thinking Mr Satan is at the hundreds and I was lol'ed,even if he is there though he still gets oneshoted with Saibamens Pinky I'd put him at about 100. It's not inconceivable. He is regarded one of the best martial artists on Earth, and even though he can't hope to compete with Goku from 23rd or even 22nd TB, I think he could reach far in 21st. That's my opinion though.
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* Mitas	Nov 30 2013, 02:15 PM Post #27
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Emmeth Nov 30 2013, 12:15 PM Vegeta SSj4 Nov 30 2013, 11:45 AM I have see people thinking Mr Satan is at the hundreds and I was lol'ed,even if he is there though he still gets oneshoted with Saibamens Pinky I'd put him at about 100. It's not inconceivable. He is regarded one of the best martial artists on Earth, and even though he can't hope to compete with Goku from 23rd or even 22nd TB, I think he could reach far in 21st. That's my opinion though. That was why I didn't think twice about him being at least around 100. Yes he was nowhere near as powerful as he imagined he was, but he was still considered the top guy in the world outside of the Z Fighters. That has to count for something when the World Tournament has a history of fighters most likely to be around the 100s during the Dragonball era.
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lazerbem	Nov 30 2013, 03:12 PM Post #28
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	You know, if we go off of gag logic, Mr. Satan was dodging Kid Buu's hits and surviving Omega Shenron's kicks Edited by lazerbem, Nov 30 2013, 03:16 PM.
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+ Emmeth	Nov 30 2013, 03:19 PM Post #29
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	lazerbem Nov 30 2013, 03:12 PM You know, if we go off of gag logic, Mr. Satan was dodging Kid Buu's hits and surviving Omega Shenron's kicks I saw your post before the edit, and Satan did survive one of Pure Boo's "hits", the one with his head-tail, whatever it's called.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 30 2013, 04:14 PM Post #30
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Emmeth Nov 30 2013, 12:15 PM Vegeta SSj4 Nov 30 2013, 11:45 AM I have see people thinking Mr Satan is at the hundreds and I was lol'ed,even if he is there though he still gets oneshoted with Saibamens Pinky I'd put him at about 100. It's not inconceivable. He is regarded one of the best martial artists on Earth, and even though he can't hope to compete with Goku from 23rd or even 22nd TB, I think he could reach far in 21st. That's my opinion though. Its okay to think that,but he couldn't dodge a bullet all fighters from 21th budokai could do it easily though,Hercule been over 50x times plus,a normal human sounds to much for me
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