If Vegito is stronger than a SS4

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If Vegito is stronger than a SS4
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+ Kaboom	Nov 16 2013, 02:47 AM Post #31
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	I admit that my explanation is somewhat of a loophole. But anyone with two neurons to click together can see that it stands perfectly well, and is a valid explanation for Goku's line in GT that allows it to work with the entry about Vegetto and doesn't require going "fah! Who needs guidebooks?" It's a viable explanation whether you like it or not. So don't go throwing around "can't be" or "impossible" bullcrap when you know it isn't true.



EMIYA	Nov 16 2013, 02:56 AM Post #32
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	You bring up a decent point KP, though in such a case, it makes me wonder about a few things. For one, unless we use specifically amps (and honestly considering some of the things in GT, I can understand) and/or we'd have to make specific notes. Let's for whatever reason we use the normal SEG multipliers. For one, if Vegetto must be stronger than SSJ4, than Rild can't be stronger than Gohan Boo. Since IIRC SSJ Goku~Transformed Rild>Roboticstuffandwhatnot Rild>Base Rild~Base Goku>Gohan Boo. Then its outright impossible for Super Vegetto to be stronger than the likes of even Baby Vegeta. Of course admittedly Rild stated that Goku had only been using half his power at base and then transformed showing one hell of a weak SSJ amp so there is always that.



+ Pyrus	Nov 16 2013, 02:57 AM Post #33
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Kaboom Nov 16 2013, 02:47 AM I admit that my explanation is somewhat of a loophole. But anyone with two neurons to click together can see that it stands perfectly well, and is a valid explanation for Goku's line in GT that allows it to work with the entry about Vegetto and doesn't require going "fah! Who needs guidebooks?" It's a viable explanation whether you like it or not. So don't go throwing around "can't be" or "impossible" bullcrap when you know it isn't true. I'm afraid I didn't do that, sir. My way of it isn't about throwing the guidebook out. But, hey, as you said, it is a loophole, so it isn't very well the most logical or most likely.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Nov 19 2013, 06:22 AM Post #34
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Sir Brofist Nov 16 2013, 02:56 AM You bring up a decent point KP, though in such a case, it makes me wonder about a few things. For one, unless we use specifically amps (and honestly considering some of the things in GT, I can understand) and/or we'd have to make specific notes. Let's for whatever reason we use the normal SEG multipliers. For one, if Vegetto must be stronger than SSJ4, than Rild can't be stronger than Gohan Boo. Since IIRC SSJ Goku~Transformed Rild>Roboticstuffandwhatnot Rild>Base Rild~Base Goku>Gohan Boo. Then its outright impossible for Super Vegetto to be stronger than the likes of even Baby Vegeta. Of course admittedly Rild stated that Goku had only been using half his power at base and then transformed showing one hell of a weak SSJ amp so there is always that. Base GT goku is above buuhan? I knew he was was above buu but buuhan? Can you tell me how?
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 19 2013, 01:27 PM Post #35
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Ssj3vegito96 Nov 19 2013, 06:22 AM Sir Brofist Nov 16 2013, 02:56 AM You bring up a decent point KP, though in such a case, it makes me wonder about a few things. For one, unless we use specifically amps (and honestly considering some of the things in GT, I can understand) and/or we'd have to make specific notes. Let's for whatever reason we use the normal SEG multipliers. For one, if Vegetto must be stronger than SSJ4, than Rild can't be stronger than Gohan Boo. Since IIRC SSJ Goku~Transformed Rild>Roboticstuffandwhatnot Rild>Base Rild~Base Goku>Gohan Boo. Then its outright impossible for Super Vegetto to be stronger than the likes of even Baby Vegeta. Of course admittedly Rild stated that Goku had only been using half his power at base and then transformed showing one hell of a weak SSJ amp so there is always that. Base GT goku is above buuhan? I knew he was was above buu but buuhan? Can you tell me how? Goku was stated he Riildo he was above Majin Buu we assume he's refering to the strongest version of Buu because there's no reason to make such statement if it wasn't the strongest one,also he was refering to Kid Buu actually who in the anime version of DBZ is the strongest Majin Buu so Anime Kid Buu>Buuhan
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Dec 3 2013, 04:50 PM Post #36
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	The GT perfect files only claim Vegetto generally is perhaps stronger than Ssj4. People often glaze over the facts that the guidebook puts a period after it says Vegetto can make himself stronger by turning into a Ssj and says perhaps. I think Ssj4 Goku is at or over twice as strong as Ssj2 Vegetto.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Dec 3 2013, 05:27 PM Post #37
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Dec 3 2013, 04:50 PM The GT perfect files only claim Vegetto generally is perhaps stronger than Ssj4. People often glaze over the facts that the guidebook puts a period after it says Vegetto can make himself stronger by turning into a Ssj and says perhaps. I think Ssj4 Goku is at or over twice as strong as Ssj2 Vegetto. True Considering SBV1>SSj Vegito,then SSj4 Goku should be widely above SSj2 Vegito,propably stronger than SSj3 Vegito,he was stomping SBV2 easily,and fighting equally with a Golden Great Ape Golden Great ape>Normal Ape and we know that,Normal Ape is 10x times increase so Goku is even far above SSj3 Vegito
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+ Kaboom	Dec 3 2013, 06:07 PM Post #38
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	Or maybe, just maybe, Super Vegetto and Super Saiyan 4 Goku are on roughly the same level like the book says, Baby Vegeta's somewhere between that and Gohan-Boo, and everything falls together nicely?



+ Majin Vegeta	Dec 3 2013, 06:10 PM Post #39
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Kaboom Dec 3 2013, 06:07 PM Or maybe, just maybe, Super Vegetto and Super Saiyan 4 Goku are on roughly the same level like the book says, Baby Vegeta's somewhere between that and Gohan-Boo, and everything falls together nicely? Well if you want, to go against the Characters statements,then I guess its fine Riildo>Buuhan SBV1>SSj Vegito SSj4 Goku>>>>SBV2 Edited by Majin Vegeta, Dec 3 2013, 06:10 PM.
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+ Kaboom	Dec 3 2013, 06:26 PM Post #40
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	Vegeta SSj4 Dec 3 2013, 06:10 PM Riildo>Buuhan SBV1>SSj Vegito SSj4 Goku>>>>SBV2 Rild was just compared to "Majin Boo," no reason to assume it's specifically Gohan-Boo. I still hold that Mister Boo most likely takes precedence as the one Majin Boo who actually still exists. As I've outlined before, the "strongest ki I've ever felt" statements have a loophole in that they've been shown to not necessarily include the person making the observation. Goku WAS Vegetto, so "SBV1" > Vegetto is also not a confirmed fact.



+ Majin Vegeta	Dec 3 2013, 06:29 PM Post #41
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Kaboom Dec 3 2013, 06:26 PM Vegeta SSj4 Dec 3 2013, 06:10 PM Riildo>Buuhan SBV1>SSj Vegito SSj4 Goku>>>>SBV2 Rild was just compared to "Majin Boo," no reason to assume it's specifically Gohan-Boo. I still hold that Mister Boo most likely takes precedence as the one Majin Boo who actually still exists. As I've outlined before, the "strongest ki I've ever felt" statements have a loophole in that they've been shown to not necessarily include the person making the observation. Goku WAS Vegetto, so "SBV1" > Vegetto is also not a confirmed fact. 1-I never said he was refering to Buuhan,now did I ?GT follows the anime,Kid Buu is the strongest in the anime(that was stated)and there is not a single reason to think that he doesn't mean the strongest incarnation of Buu,that he also fought 2-He is the strongest ki he felt,that's what he said,unless you think Goku didn't knew Vegitos power,which doesn't make sense to me
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