If Vegito is stronger than a SS4

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If Vegito is stronger than a SS4
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Aja	Nov 10 2013, 04:22 AM Post #1
Visual Kei Posts: 245 Group: Member Member #8,441 Joined: October 18, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Wouldn't SS4 be a useless form then? Since Goku is stronger, than Vegito? He would be stronger than a SS4 at the start of GT.. Okay my head hurts..



AA500	Nov 10 2013, 04:30 AM Post #2
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	Goku didn't surpass Vegetto until he had SSJ4. Vegetto was only stated to be in the same realm of power as an SSJ4 in some silly guidebook, whereas in GT the first transformation of Baby is implied to be stronger than Vegetto with SSJ4 Goku much stronger than that. Edited by AA500, Nov 10 2013, 04:30 AM.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Nov 10 2013, 04:44 AM Post #3
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Vegetto wasn't surpassed until Baby Vegeta transformed into his second form. SSJ4 surpasses Vegetto level of power even more than that.



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 10 2013, 07:45 PM Post #4
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	What everyone else SSj Vegito is an ant compare to SSj4 Goku heck Vegito is even weaker than SBV1 lol!
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


+ Kaboom	Nov 10 2013, 09:16 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	Super Vegetto being stronger than a Super Saiyan 4 doesn't devalue the form. Just stop and think about it for a sec. Goku with now on-par with the single strongest being in DBZ by a huge stretch... with "only" a new transformation. No, comparing Super Saiyan 4 to Super Vegetto actually emphasizes how crazy strong the form is. The citation in the GT Special Anime Comic's purpose was to talk about how strong Vegetto was, but it goes both ways. But people don't like that idea, and they'll keep believing in the same old flawed interpretation of that one GT line because they're allergic to guidebooks or something.



ImmortalX	Nov 10 2013, 09:27 PM Post #6
I am the eternal deity, I can never be killed. I'm Immortal. I am X. Posts: 190 Group: Member Member #10,305 Joined: October 5, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball GT What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dr.Slump, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z	Well, they said he MIGHT. Lol. SSj3 Kid Goku was already very very very close to SSJ Vegito. I have Baby Saga Goku weaker then Buuhan sadly, but Shadow Dragon and S17 him above Buuhan alot. So, SSJ4 Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...SSJ Vegito



+ Pyrus	Nov 10 2013, 09:36 PM Post #7
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Kaboom Nov 10 2013, 09:16 PM Super Vegetto being stronger than a Super Saiyan 4 doesn't devalue the form. Just stop and think about it for a sec. Goku with now on-par with the single strongest being in DBZ by a huge stretch... with "only" a new transformation. No, comparing Super Saiyan 4 to Super Vegetto actually emphasizes how crazy strong the form is. The citation in the GT Special Anime Comic's purpose was to talk about how strong Vegetto was, but it goes both ways. But people don't like that idea, and they'll keep believing in the same old flawed interpretation of that one GT line because they're allergic to guidebooks or something. That's not very nice.
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+ Kaboom	Nov 10 2013, 09:43 PM Post #8
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	The truth isn't always comfy. While I try to be accepting and let people have their own opinions, it's the reasons behind those opinions that can get to me. Going "lol silly guidebook" because you've drawn and gotten accustomed to some hyperbolic conclusion about one nearly-worthless line is... well, dumb.



+ Pyrus	Nov 10 2013, 09:48 PM Post #9
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Kaboom Nov 10 2013, 09:43 PM The truth isn't always comfy. While I try to be accepting and let people have their own opinions, it's the reasons behind those opinions that can get to me. Going "lol silly guidebook" because you've drawn and gotten accustomed to some hyperbolic conclusion about one nearly-worthless line is... well, dumb. Of course, but the coin can always be flipped on its side. Guy could come in here yammering about people hugging Vegetto's nuts and having a distaste for GT being the reasons behind such embrace of the guidebook and interpretation of said line. It's not like you've got a hard-on for Vegetto or anything, but that always seems to be the way I phrase that sort of thing...
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 13 2013, 08:52 PM Post #10
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Kaboom Nov 10 2013, 09:43 PM The truth isn't always comfy. While I try to be accepting and let people have their own opinions, it's the reasons behind those opinions that can get to me. Going "lol silly guidebook" because you've drawn and gotten accustomed to some hyperbolic conclusion about one nearly-worthless line is... well, dumb. Well I don't think they are actually silly but I think they have a lot of mistakes on them like LSSj Broly been on Gogetas 50% SSj level or something
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


lazerbem	Nov 15 2013, 02:58 AM Post #11
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	The guide books are useless unless you think Nappa was at 4,000, Gohan was killed by Recoome, Piccolo is at 3,500, and Kibito being equal to Gohan
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+ Kaboom	Nov 15 2013, 07:27 AM Post #12
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	lazerbem Nov 15 2013, 02:58 AM The guide books are useless unless you think Nappa was at 4,000, Gohan was killed by Recoome, Piccolo is at 3,500, and Kibito being equal to Gohan The thing about Recoome killing <whoever> was an old mistranslation on part of the Kanzentai guys. The guidebook actually just says it was intended to kill <whoever>. The other three things you mentioned are perfectly valid.



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 15 2013, 02:03 PM Post #13
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Kaboom Nov 15 2013, 07:27 AM lazerbem Nov 15 2013, 02:58 AM The guide books are useless unless you think Nappa was at 4,000, Gohan was killed by Recoome, Piccolo is at 3,500, and Kibito being equal to Gohan The thing about Recoome killing <whoever> was an old mistranslation on part of the Kanzentai guys. The guidebook actually just says it was intended to kill <whoever>. The other three things you mentioned are perfectly valid. Actually Piccolo can't be at 3.500 considering he's Masenko was 2.800 and was the first think that supposed the saiyans and Kinito is not equal to Gohan
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


+ Kaboom	Nov 15 2013, 07:37 PM Post #14
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	Vegeta SSj4 Nov 15 2013, 02:03 PM Actually Piccolo can't be at 3.500 considering he's Masenko was 2.800 and was the first think that supposed the saiyans and Kinito is not equal to Gohan I... I can't decipher this post.



~~King Kakarot~~	Nov 15 2013, 07:52 PM Post #15
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	besides its impossible for anime vegito to be equal to a ssj4 goku seeing as how GT follows the anime Anime ssj vegito was shown somewhat struggling with buuhan Also in the anime Kid buu is the strongest buu and ssj3 goku was fighting with him so the chain would be ssj3 Goku>Kid buu>SSJ Vegito(suppressed)>buuhan so yes the guidebook makes no sense in this situation



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