Vegetto vs SSJ god Goku, what evidence is there?

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Vegetto vs SSJ god Goku, what evidence is there?
Tweet Topic Started: Nov 6 2013, 01:09 PM (1,406 Views)
Hearts	Nov 6 2013, 01:09 PM Post #1
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	People are saying that SSJ God Goku is much stronger than Vegetto (some even put him above SSJ3 Vegetto) but ive never seen any sort of evidence that would support this.. SSJ Vegetto stomped Buuhan like hes nothing, Buuhan has the power of Kid Goten and Trunks, Piccolo, Mystic Gohan and Buu himself which would easily put Buuhan far above anything else and SSJ Vegetto was playing with him like he was nothing. Now Bills stomped all of the Z fighters including Mystic Gohan and he did it with one hit each.. Wiss says that Bills was fighting at 70% power against SSJ God Goku which would put Goku at 70% of Bills power... So we can easily say that SSJ god Goku would also stomp Mystic Gohan like hes nothing.. The only other thing that has been said is that Goku says that he never imagined a realm like this when he became SSj God, people are using this as fact that SSJ God is stronger than Vegetto but I really disagree here because Goku said the word "realm" meaning the God realm, he didnt say anything about power.. So i dont think that sentence had anything to do with his Battle Power and i think it was just him feeling a different kind of ki. This is what ive come up with so im wondering if theres any evidence suggesting that SSJ God is stronger than Vegetto?



+ Solid Snake	Nov 6 2013, 01:25 PM Post #2
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Goku was referring to his power. Before ascending to SSJG Goku had no idea how strong Birusu was. The "realm" statement is just another word for saying the gap between A and B was stupendous. Case in point: SSJ Vegito gets mirked, badly. Edited by Solid Snake, Nov 6 2013, 01:28 PM.
	Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig SUPER THANKS CELL Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8434874/1/#new Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8435708/1/#new


EMIYA	Nov 6 2013, 01:27 PM Post #3
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	The original point was mostly revolving around how "Beers" was described as the absolute strongest being ever. (Later proved to be surpassed by Wiss) and never give note of whether this includes Super Vegetto or forms above Super Vegetto. Nor do I believe are we given point if this includes 70% Beers or 100% Beers.



+ Solid Snake	Nov 6 2013, 01:34 PM Post #4
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Is this really you Brofist? Birusu was pretty much stated he stronger than anyone in Z, barring Whis. This includes SSJ Vegito, it wouldnt make sense to give Birusu a title like that for no reason.
	Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig SUPER THANKS CELL Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8434874/1/#new Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8435708/1/#new


Hearts	Nov 6 2013, 01:55 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	Bills: How does it feel to become a God? Goku: Im surprised Bills: Is that so, im shocked.. Thats the same thought as i __________________________________________________ Bills: Whats wrong? You seem dissatisfied. Goku: A little Bills: Do you dislike becoming a God? Goku: Yeah, for a world like this to exist. Bills: What do you mean? Goku: Its a world i wasnt able to come alone _______________________________________________ Bills: It seems that while you were fighting as a god, you absorbed that world into you. Thats why when you transformed back, your power didnt decrease drastically ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Thats all i found about it, everytime they talk about world/realm they refer to the God realm, not power.. so i personally, i dont think he refers to battle power, is there anything else that states that SSJ God Goku is the most powerful version of the heroes?



EMIYA	Nov 6 2013, 05:05 PM Post #6
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	xGOKUdaSAVIORx Nov 6 2013, 01:34 PM Is this really you Brofist? Birusu was pretty much stated he stronger than anyone in Z, barring Whis. This includes SSJ Vegito, it wouldnt make sense to give Birusu a title like that for no reason. Not sure what you're talking about. The description involving Beers is left relatively vague. We don't know if his power surpasses just Super Vegetto, or the potential of an SSj3 Vegetto. Nor do we know if this statement revolves just around his initial power we're shown, such as 70% or if this includes his 100% power too, adding more mystery to the kind of gap we have. The only thing we know for certain is that Beers>Super Vegetto. We don't know if this mean 70% Beers>Super Vegetto (Though this one seems most likely) or if 100% Beers>70% Beers>Super Vegetto Or if 100% Beers>Super Vegetto>70% Beers Or if 100% Beers>SSj3 Vegetto Or if 70% Beers>SSj3 Vegetto etc, etc etc, as you can see their are multiple possibilities that are left vague.



Hearts	Nov 6 2013, 05:11 PM Post #7
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	Sir Brofist Nov 6 2013, 05:05 PM The only thing we know for certain is that Beers>Super Vegetto. This, i want to know how we know this, is it something A.T said or?



EMIYA	Nov 6 2013, 05:20 PM Post #8
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Quote: What’s more, the God of Destruction Beerus, who I drew the design for myself (something I don’t usually do), is a terrifying opponent so overwhelmingly strong that he surpasses the dimension of the previous enemies. -Akira Toriayama http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/battle-of-gods-promotional-pamphlet-2-akira-toriyama/ Quote: "I was able to preserve the dignity of Beerus, rumored to be the strongest there is..."-Akira Toriayama http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/battle-gods-blu-ray-dvd-message/



Hearts	Nov 6 2013, 05:54 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	I see, first quote just said that hes stronger than Buuhan but second one seems to be a good enough of statement that hes stronger than Super Vegetto :P Thanks for linking



+ Solid Snake	Nov 6 2013, 05:59 PM Post #10
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Answer this, regardless of which case Birusu's stronger, why would Goku waste his breatg saying he never thought [SSJG] power existed, knowing full well SSJ Vegito's power and a potentailly SSJ3 Vegito will be capable of?
	Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig SUPER THANKS CELL Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8434874/1/#new Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8435708/1/#new


+ Solid Snake	Nov 6 2013, 06:04 PM Post #11
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Phone wont let me edit: And even before the movie was said to be the strongest being in Z. Inital Birusu > SSJ3 Vegito. There's no reason they say this without including the former strongest being's SSJ3.
	Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig SUPER THANKS CELL Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8434874/1/#new Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8435708/1/#new


Hearts	Nov 6 2013, 06:50 PM Post #12
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	xGOKUdaSAVIORx Nov 6 2013, 05:59 PM Answer this, regardless of which case Birusu's stronger, why would Goku waste his breatg saying he never thought [SSJG] power existed, knowing full well SSJ Vegito's power and a potentailly SSJ3 Vegito will be capable of? Quote: Bills: How does it feel to become a God? Goku: Im surprised Bills: Is that so, im shocked.. Thats the same thought as i __________________________________________________ Bills: Whats wrong? You seem dissatisfied. Goku: A little Bills: Do you dislike becoming a God? Goku: Yeah, for a world like this to exist. Bills: What do you mean? Goku: Its a world i wasnt able to come alone _______________________________________________ Bills: It seems that while you were fighting as a god, you absorbed that world into you. Thats why when you transformed back, your power didnt decrease drastically ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Thats all i found about it, everytime they talk about world/realm they refer to the God realm, not power.. so i personally, i dont think he refers to battle power WHen it comes to what he said, i dont believe he meant power, i think he meant the realm of gods as it has a different kind of ki But i agree that Bills is stronger than Super Vegetto, SSJ God Goku might be stronger aswell, im not gonna jump to theories about that, i just wanted evidence (and no, Goku talking about being in a different realm doesnt count in my opinion :P) Edited by Hearts, Nov 6 2013, 06:54 PM.



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 6 2013, 07:01 PM Post #13
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Personall I have Bills above SSj3 Vegito but like Brofist I don't have any evidence for my claims its just an opinion we only know that he is above SSj Vegito and that's that
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


Hearts	Nov 6 2013, 07:17 PM Post #14
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	The only reason i have a hard time believing anyone being stronger than Vegetto is if Potara has a X * Y multiplier, meaning if Goku and Vegeta has 50 billion BP as SSJ then Vegetto would have 2500000000000000000000 BP which is 2.5 Sixtillion BP or 2.5^21 BP while they have 50^10.. its such an incredibly huge amount that its hard to believe that a raging Vegeta could even punch Bills tho, thats only some random numbers i wrote and Akira saying that hes the strongest is final :P Edited by Hearts, Nov 6 2013, 07:18 PM.



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 6 2013, 07:18 PM Post #15
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Well it was stated that Bills is above SSj Vegito that's a fact my friend
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


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