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Goku vs Incredible Hulk
Topic Started: Nov 4 2013, 01:11 AM (5,585 Views)
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Just a topic so I can post elsewhere, but i'm also interested in who you think could possibly win this. I'm going with Goku, SSJ and up, hes just to fast for the Hulk to possibly hit.
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You guys are mislead Hulk cant take a galaxy busting attack and not be vaporize. True that his regen is hax, but beings that can blast or reduce you to nothing can stop that motion. And galaxy busting reduces everything within its radius, to nothing.
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But in the beginning of the fight does hulk have the durability necessary since he is not very angry yet? He's not that powerful when he's calm or what passes for being calm at least. In an instant goku can turn ssj4 and fire a multi solar system busting blast. By the way, I honestly don't know if goku or hulk would win so I'm asking you guys out of curiousity because I want to figure it out now. Thanks
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Nov 6 2013, 09:40 PM
If what the Beyonder said only related to physical strength, then Hulk's durability wouldn't increase...which it obviously does.

Sorry it seemed like you were siding with Goku on this one.

I don't see what's so hard to concieve of Hulk beating Goku, his feats and statements have been presented. All of which outshine anything Goku has done. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Goku is going to lose here.

Hulk will be angry, i'm sure he'd accidentally kill Goku while in a fit of rage, while Goku would be crapping himself over Hulk's power.
I meant durability too to be included in strength. Durability, strength, speed, hops, striking, busting. None of those are anything like time travel or reality writing, rewriting. Comparing TOAA to Hulk is plain wrong.

Hulk has the ability to eventually beat anyone when he gets angry enough with the exception of God/Omnipotent characters, but the question is is there any form of Goku who will have enough punch in a IT Kahmehama to take him out including his DNA before he can get to a stage where he's too angry to beat and his durability and speed are too high. In my opinion, with SSJG it is possible but I'm not sure.

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Nov 4 2013, 02:47 AM
- The Beyonder states that the Hulk's strength has no finite element inside and that Hulk's power is virtually limitless (Secret Wars 2 #8)

- Green Scar Hulk fights and defeats the uber-powerful hero Sentry, who unleashes his full power of a million exploding suns, but is still unable to defeat the awesome power of the Hulk who leaves him bloody and broken at his feet in the form of Robert Reynolds (World War Hulk #5)

- The Hulk defeats and destroys the powerful Godseye Robot and proves that he doesn't need to breathe air in order to survive in space (Incredible Hulk #91, Vol. 2)

- World-Breaker Hulk withstands a powerful blow from Skaar equal to 100 trillions tons of force, which sends him soaring off hundreds of miles through the air before crashing into a mountain range in West Viriginia(Incredible Hulk #611)

- World-Breaker Hulk knocks Skaar into orbit with a single blow (Incredible Hulk #611)

- While Thor and the rest of the heroes were driven back by Galactus' power, Hulk wades through it to attack


well actually ww hulk and sentry tied, they used up all there powers and reverted to human forms
then as humans bruce knocked out robert

also and IT is pretty amazing would have killed kid buu and cell if not for the regen
that ofc with KHH and ofc its all round usefuleness that is he can be anywhere he wants instantly
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Hulk has no strength limit.
The hulk also starts as strong as whatever is stressing him, has nothing to do with anger.
Hulk's extreme levels of strength have allowed him to do things like ripping whole dimensions asunder, even indirectly, with a thunderclaps and collision shock waves, also withstanding force that can rip apart dimensions, as well as being able to destroy planets with mere footsteps

It's also worth noting the hulk held back against full powered Sentry.

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Nov 7 2013, 03:26 AM
Hulk has no strength limit.
The hulk also starts as strong as whatever is stressing him, has nothing to do with anger.
Hulk's extreme levels of strength have allowed him to do things like ripping whole dimensions asunder, even indirectly, with a thunderclaps and collision shock waves, also withstanding force that can rip apart dimensions, as well as being able to destroy planets with mere footsteps

It's also worth noting the hulk held back against full powered Sentry.

Yeah and Buuhan almost collapsed the universe with he's scream lmao like SSj3 Vegito said Goku could beat Hulk if he fights seriosuly from the begining and manages to overpowered him quickly otherwise he gets he's head ripped of in the end
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What part of you can't QUICKLY OVERPOWER THE HULK Don't you get?


His DNA is hardwired to match pound for pound any sort of force exerted against him.

You can destroy the Hulks' Body, but his DNA will be just as strong as whatever destroyed his body. The Hulk's body is what takes time to catch up. His DNA is always stronger than he is. It's a matter of time before the Hulk kicks the s*** out of you, and he'll ALWAYS get to that point because of his DNA. Dude, it's not fair. Hulk is just overpowered. He's engineered to be overpowered. He's the ultimate Fighter
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Nov 7 2013, 04:40 PM
What part of you can't QUICKLY OVERPOWER THE HULK Don't you get?


His DNA is hardwired to match pound for pound any sort of force exerted against him.

You can destroy the Hulks' Body, but his DNA will be just as strong as whatever destroyed his body. The Hulk's body is what takes time to catch up. His DNA is always stronger than he is. It's a matter of time before the Hulk kicks the s*** out of you, and he'll ALWAYS get to that point because of his DNA. Dude, it's not fair. Hulk is just overpowered. He's engineered to be overpowered. He's the ultimate Fighter
That's riduculous its like saying Hulk can tank a multiversal attack and still been alive and well after that which is not true Hulk at the beginning of a fight would never survive a galaxy busting attack
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What part of you can't QUICKLY OVERPOWER THE HULK Don't you get?


His DNA is hardwired to match pound for pound any sort of force exerted against him.

You can destroy the Hulks' Body, but his DNA will be just as strong as whatever destroyed his body. The Hulk's body is what takes time to catch up. His DNA is always stronger than he is. It's a matter of time before the Hulk kicks the s*** out of you, and he'll ALWAYS get to that point because of his DNA. Dude, it's not fair. Hulk is just overpowered. He's engineered to be overpowered. He's the ultimate Fighter
That's riduculous its like saying Hulk can tank a multiversal attack and still been alive and well after that which is not true Hulk at the beginning of a fight would never survive a galaxy busting attack
He does it all the time. Stop arguing. It's happened, and there's proof.
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Well then if you show me the proof that he can tank a galaxy busting when he's not angry and he could take on a multiversal then I'm backing up
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The Power Cosmic is galaxy busting. He withstood Galactus and came out unharmed. That's your proof.
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Nov 7 2013, 07:54 PM
The Power Cosmic is galaxy busting. He withstood Galactus and came out unharmed. That's your proof.
So what you're saying is that in the beginning of a fight, even if hulk is calm, you need more than a galaxy busting blast to kill him to a point where he can't regenerate?
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Alright so there we have it folks a calm Hulk is at least Galaxy level!so wrong there is no way a calm Hulk is at galaxy level planet level is the right one in my opinion
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Do you guys even read what I've said?

The Hulk is not rage dependent anymore.

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Hulk's power is not centered around his anger but stress. being pushed toward his limits. Anger makes stress. Banner/Hulk being pushed towards his limits makes him reach for the proportionate amount of energy needed to sustain himself.

You start making Hulk uncomfortable with a significant amount of bodily stress and he gets stronger, grabbing at the endless power of the universe, the fabric of reality, which is known as atoms and the energy of atoms.

Being pushed towards his physical limits such as when he seriously exerts himself (like when he fighting really hard and/or getting angry) or gets hit a by a powerful enough force then the Hulk is made to grow stronger in proportion to that on a genetic level.

This extra-chemical process not only means that the Hulk has limitless in strength but is indestructible as well where it counts most, on the genetic level.

His strength and invulnerability increase, on the genetic level, and regenerates new tissue corresponding to the newfound power of his genes.


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Another myth about Hulk's stress-proportionate power increase is that that it "takes time" to response to stress. This is certainly not the case.

The whole point of Hulk being such an awesome foe is that his strength is drawn from a limitless source and increases simultaneously, right along with whatever force that puts a significant amount of pressure on his body.

The Hulk amps mid-battle, that's what just he does, instantly increasing to the proportion of the stress his body takes. Hulk does not have to wait around all day to increase in strength. That would be ridiculous and someone who have took down the Hulk a long time ago. The Hulk would be dead already if his foes needed to give him time to adjust to whatever they threw at him.

Hulk doesn't need to "take time". When put under enough pressure, he has the energy resources to meet the demands of survival and immediately adapts. Where did you get the idea that Hulk power increase "takes time"?

His DNA powers up instantly. Its the rest of the body that takes time.
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Yeah and Buuhan almost collapsed the universe with he's scream lmao like SSj3 Vegito said Goku could beat Hulk if he fights seriosuly from the begining and manages to overpowered him quickly otherwise he gets he's head ripped of in the end
Das filler.

Also just like to point out that Goku would most likely not open with a galaxy busting blast, even if that was possible. And I don't think he could go SSJG without his Saiyan buddies there either. Goku drags things out too much, and doesn't go for the kill.
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