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Goku vs Incredible Hulk
Topic Started: Nov 4 2013, 01:11 AM (5,588 Views)
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Just a topic so I can post elsewhere, but i'm also interested in who you think could possibly win this. I'm going with Goku, SSJ and up, hes just to fast for the Hulk to possibly hit.
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Nov 4 2013, 11:03 PM
Ssj4 goku can move massively faster than light and spam solar system busting blasts at hulk if he wanted to. Ssj4 goku can easily shatter planets with just the force of his punches. He can also easily withstand punches that shatter planets. He doesn't even need instant transmission because he's so much faster than the hulk. Goku takes this
No he can't, he never does that.
He is generally faster yes but that's it.

If DB characters could shatter planets with punches there wouldn't be any planets for them to fight on, although Dragon Fist could probably take out a planets core but that's about it.
Their strength just doesn't work that way and nothing ever suggests it does in any of the series except fan made stuff.

Goku could beat some incarnations of Hulk but most would stomp him, his ability to get stronger constantly is just too hax to beat.


That's basically the deal you get with every comic book character which is why I only lcare for the weaker or even powerfless ones like Wolverine and Batman. And movies because they're dumbed down.
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Steve
Nov 4 2013, 11:29 PM
Ssj3vegito96
Nov 4 2013, 11:03 PM
Ssj4 goku can move massively faster than light and spam solar system busting blasts at hulk if he wanted to. Ssj4 goku can easily shatter planets with just the force of his punches. He can also easily withstand punches that shatter planets. He doesn't even need instant transmission because he's so much faster than the hulk. Goku takes this
No he can't, he never does that.
He is generally faster yes but that's it.

If DB characters could shatter planets with punches there wouldn't be any planets for them to fight on, although Dragon Fist could probably take out a planets core but that's about it.
Their strength just doesn't work that way and nothing ever suggests it does in any of the series except fan made stuff.

Goku could beat some incarnations of Hulk but most would stomp him, his ability to get stronger constantly is just too hax to beat.


That's basically the deal you get with every comic book character which is why I only lcare for the weaker or even powerfless ones like Wolverine and Batman. And movies because they're dumbed down.
Your reasoning why dbz characters can't shatter planets is false. Superman states himself he can shatter planets with his punches and he fights on earth and other planets. There is actually nothing in the series that suggests goku can't shatter a planet. There is a lot of proof that goku can shatter a planet. And there is also proof he is faster than light too and can easily fire a solar system busting blast at ssj4. I can prove these things to you if you want
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Ssj3vegito96
Nov 5 2013, 02:39 AM
Steve
Nov 4 2013, 11:29 PM
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Nov 4 2013, 11:03 PM
Ssj4 goku can move massively faster than light and spam solar system busting blasts at hulk if he wanted to. Ssj4 goku can easily shatter planets with just the force of his punches. He can also easily withstand punches that shatter planets. He doesn't even need instant transmission because he's so much faster than the hulk. Goku takes this
No he can't, he never does that.
He is generally faster yes but that's it.

If DB characters could shatter planets with punches there wouldn't be any planets for them to fight on, although Dragon Fist could probably take out a planets core but that's about it.
Their strength just doesn't work that way and nothing ever suggests it does in any of the series except fan made stuff.

Goku could beat some incarnations of Hulk but most would stomp him, his ability to get stronger constantly is just too hax to beat.


That's basically the deal you get with every comic book character which is why I only lcare for the weaker or even powerfless ones like Wolverine and Batman. And movies because they're dumbed down.
Your reasoning why dbz characters can't shatter planets is false. Superman states himself he can shatter planets with his punches and he fights on earth and other planets. There is actually nothing in the series that suggests goku can't shatter a planet. There is a lot of proof that goku can shatter a planet. And there is also proof he is faster than light too and can easily fire a solar system busting blast at ssj4. I can prove these things to you if you want
Go and give prove then because what your saying right now is assumption.
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Frieza implied that at full power he could sustain the blast from nameks explosion. There is proof of that too. He survives and deflects planet busting attacks while not using full power and with barely any energy left he does end up surviving the blast. Ssj2 teen gohan's punches shattered the cell jr's who inherited cells power, proved to be much stronger and more durable than frieza who has planet plus durability. Vegeta states ssj2 goku is stronger than ssj2 teen gohan. Goku punched a hole through king kais planet which is arguably more dense than earth. Virtually all the scenes where we see the characters punch or kick the ground and do little damage are filler and do not happen in the manga. Goku CAN easily shatter a planet at ssj4. Next goku's speed. In dragon ball, goku could dodge and deflect machine fun fire. This easily a super sonic feat, as most bullets move at around the speed of sound or faster. Then he trains for 3 years and master roshi can't even see him during his fight with tien. Roshi caught an entire magazine from a machine gun. The fact that goku is much bigger than a bullet and still couldn't see goku moving means he is high super sonic or low hypersonic at the least. Then, goku gets an "exponential" increase in power from drinking the ultra divine water. After that, he trains another 3 years with mr popo and kami. Mr popo teaches him how to be faster than lightning. This not a hyperbole. Goku and mr popo were very serious about it, as goku attempted it after saying "faster than lightning?" and says "it's not easy". Mr popo does a demonstration and goku can't even follow his movement and mr popo says it AGAIN that he must move faster than lightning. Goku was hypersonic before meeting mr popo and mr popo is clearly much powerful than goku. Training 3 years with a god and his assistant who had lived for hundreds of years means logically goku is going to get a massive power increase. And we see that he succeeds in that when kami says that even with his godly eyes he can't see him move. After all the multipliers and training it's obvious that goku far surpasses light. Next, destructive power.
Ssj2 teen gohan and cell are confirmed solar system plus busters. Ssj4 goku is literally well over 4000x more powerful, I trust we all agree on that. He can easily fire a solar system busting blast in an instant. Durability now. Majin vegeta, who is stronger than ssj2 teen gohan implies that he is going all out or atleast using a huge amount of his energy against goku when he says "here I come kakarot, I'm going to kill you!". Goku catches and withstands a lot of vegetas punches. Being able to withstand several planet busting blasts is also supported by even screw attack's theory of "ki output = durability"
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I'll just say this. Hulk's "Virtually Limitless" power is held back by his anger. If you somehow managed to get Hulk that angry, he could probably take out a universe.

The difference between people like TOAA and the Hulk is TOAA has infinite at his disposal at any time, whilst Hulk has to get angrier and angrier to access more and more of his "Virtually Limitless" supply of power. Goku stands no chance here. What's a rock to a mountain? What are Mice to Men?
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Nov 5 2013, 07:11 AM
I'll just say this. Hulk's "Virtually Limitless" power is held back by his anger. If you somehow managed to get Hulk that angry, he could probably take out a universe.

The difference between people like TOAA and the Hulk is TOAA has infinite at his disposal at any time, whilst Hulk has to get angrier and angrier to access more and more of his "Virtually Limitless" supply of power. Goku stands no chance here. What's a rock to a mountain? What are Mice to Men?
Goku knows when to end things before before they get out of hand
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Nov 5 2013, 07:51 AM
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Nov 5 2013, 07:11 AM
I'll just say this. Hulk's "Virtually Limitless" power is held back by his anger. If you somehow managed to get Hulk that angry, he could probably take out a universe.

The difference between people like TOAA and the Hulk is TOAA has infinite at his disposal at any time, whilst Hulk has to get angrier and angrier to access more and more of his "Virtually Limitless" supply of power. Goku stands no chance here. What's a rock to a mountain? What are Mice to Men?
Goku knows when to end things before before they get out of hand
Buu saga would like to speak to you.

Plus Goku loves a good fight way too much.
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Nov 5 2013, 07:51 AM
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Nov 5 2013, 07:11 AM
I'll just say this. Hulk's "Virtually Limitless" power is held back by his anger. If you somehow managed to get Hulk that angry, he could probably take out a universe.

The difference between people like TOAA and the Hulk is TOAA has infinite at his disposal at any time, whilst Hulk has to get angrier and angrier to access more and more of his "Virtually Limitless" supply of power. Goku stands no chance here. What's a rock to a mountain? What are Mice to Men?
Goku knows when to end things before before they get out of hand
Goku has never ended anything before it went from bad to worse.
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Goku would win in his base, I just don't see hulk in the league of later dbz.
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miguelnuva
Nov 4 2013, 09:35 PM
Hulk has regen that would make Buu cringe that along with his unlimited power gives him the win here, Goku might be faster but combat speed is null in void when you have to constantly get in close.
dont be ridiculous....can Hulk blow up a solar system ...i doubt

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Nov 5 2013, 12:01 PM
miguelnuva
Nov 4 2013, 09:35 PM
Hulk has regen that would make Buu cringe that along with his unlimited power gives him the win here, Goku might be faster but combat speed is null in void when you have to constantly get in close.
dont be ridiculous....can Hulk blow up a solar system ...i doubt
Does Goku have a virtually limitless supply of power to draw from...I doubt.
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Nov 5 2013, 12:19 PM
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Nov 5 2013, 12:01 PM
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Nov 4 2013, 09:35 PM
Hulk has regen that would make Buu cringe that along with his unlimited power gives him the win here, Goku might be faster but combat speed is null in void when you have to constantly get in close.
dont be ridiculous....can Hulk blow up a solar system ...i doubt
Does Goku have a virtually limitless supply of power to draw from...I doubt.
He doesnt need to

If he can desintegrate the half of cell's body with an it kamehameha imagine what he can do with a ssj3 it khh ...

Hulk just dont have any chance


maybe against pre frieza saga goku

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Nov 5 2013, 09:41 AM
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Nov 5 2013, 07:51 AM
Squall Leonheart
Nov 5 2013, 07:11 AM
I'll just say this. Hulk's "Virtually Limitless" power is held back by his anger. If you somehow managed to get Hulk that angry, he could probably take out a universe.

The difference between people like TOAA and the Hulk is TOAA has infinite at his disposal at any time, whilst Hulk has to get angrier and angrier to access more and more of his "Virtually Limitless" supply of power. Goku stands no chance here. What's a rock to a mountain? What are Mice to Men?
Goku knows when to end things before before they get out of hand
Goku has never ended anything before it went from bad to worse.
What about in fusion reborn? "I better end this quick before this gets out hand". He then turned ssj3 and went nuts
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Ssj3vegito96
Nov 5 2013, 03:44 PM
miguelnuva
Nov 5 2013, 09:41 AM
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Nov 5 2013, 07:51 AM
Squall Leonheart
Nov 5 2013, 07:11 AM
I'll just say this. Hulk's "Virtually Limitless" power is held back by his anger. If you somehow managed to get Hulk that angry, he could probably take out a universe.

The difference between people like TOAA and the Hulk is TOAA has infinite at his disposal at any time, whilst Hulk has to get angrier and angrier to access more and more of his "Virtually Limitless" supply of power. Goku stands no chance here. What's a rock to a mountain? What are Mice to Men?
Goku knows when to end things before before they get out of hand
Goku has never ended anything before it went from bad to worse.
What about in fusion reborn? "I better end this quick before this gets out hand". He then turned ssj3 and went nuts
I hahaa'd. Hahaa
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La Fleur
Nov 5 2013, 12:22 PM
Squall Leonheart
Nov 5 2013, 12:19 PM
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Nov 5 2013, 12:01 PM
miguelnuva
Nov 4 2013, 09:35 PM
Hulk has regen that would make Buu cringe that along with his unlimited power gives him the win here, Goku might be faster but combat speed is null in void when you have to constantly get in close.
dont be ridiculous....can Hulk blow up a solar system ...i doubt
Does Goku have a virtually limitless supply of power to draw from...I doubt.
He doesnt need to

If he can desintegrate the half of cell's body with an it kamehameha imagine what he can do with a ssj3 it khh ...

Hulk just dont have any chance


maybe against pre frieza saga goku
Goku has no reason though. Hulk isn't evil, nor does he want to destroy the Earth. Goku would just spar with him until Hulk becomes too powerful.

As far as i've seen the blast radius of the It KHH sucked because it was so close. Goku literally needs to be extremely lucky. You're also assuming that Goku starts off extremely stronger than Hulk. Which shows how desperate you want Goku to win.
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