M10 LSSJ Broly's Strength.

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M10 LSSJ Broly's Strength.
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ImmortalX	Nov 4 2013, 12:20 AM Post #1
I am the eternal deity, I can never be killed. I'm Immortal. I am X. Posts: 190 Group: Member Member #10,305 Joined: October 5, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball GT What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dr.Slump, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z	Okay, time for me to calculate Broly's strength. Gohan was a SSJ2 in M10. SSJ2 Kid Gohan was stronger but Gohan was training so the gap isn't too giant. SSJ2 Kid Gohan is about 100,000,000,000. SSJ2 Teen Gohan is 98,500,000,000. Broly was toying, so his power level is nothing compared to his full power when he used it during the Omega Blaster. Now, the first movie of Broly took place between Losers Fight First and Goku VS Cell. This means Broly took on 2 MSSJs, 2 ASSJs, and 1 Super Namekian. He should be slighter higher then SSJ2 Teen Gohan. He's 98,700,000,897. Now, he is very close to SSJ2 Kid Gohan meaning he gained a HUGE Zenkai. LSSJ Broly in M10 when he was toying should be about 300,000,000,000. Now, the only reason SSJ2 Gohan managed to attack Broly is because Broly wasn't even using his speed, strength, or skills to beat SSJ2 Gohan. And even those kicks and punches didn't do anything to Broly. The only reason why Broly got damaged was because of the lava. Gohan wasn't weakend when he used the KKH. He was the same amount of strength. So, a MSSJ, a SSJ, and a MSSJ who used the power of a SSJ3 didn't work. LSSJ Broly should be very close to SSJ3 Goku.



lazerbem	Nov 4 2013, 02:38 AM Post #2
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Gohan was pathetic as an Adult, he was a ton weaker than his Kid self. Broly wasn't toying considering his expression when Gohan out-right over powers him and breaks his hold. Lava hurts Broly but doesn't hurt Namek Saga SSJ Goku? Flawless logic. Finally, how does an MSSJ use SSJ3 power? That makes no sense and besides, SSJ3 hadn't even been revealed yet. Broly is SPC to Good Buu level in Movie 10 and would get stomped by Fat Buu, let alone SSJ3 Goku
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+ Yusuke	Nov 4 2013, 05:04 AM Post #3
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	I have him equal to SPC but other people have him as a high SSJ2 tier character. It mostly depends on how strong you have M10 Gohan really.
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+ Kaboom	Nov 4 2013, 06:37 AM Post #4
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	Here's where I have Movie 10 Broly compared to other characters. LSSJ Broly (M10) ~ 10 SSJ2 Gohan ~ 6 SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta ~ 8 This stems mainly from how officially, SSJ Broly in Movie 10 is said to be stronger than Goku (via his character bio in Daizenshuu #6's guide for Movie 10). Assuming simplistically that this just means "at equivalent forms," then since I currently consider LSSJ a slightly greater boost than SSJ2, he'd end up with a decent gap over Goku. If Goku teamed up with someone on-par with himself (Vegeta, Paikuhan, etc), or obviously just used SSJ3, then he could still take Broly down. So Broly's a decent little chunk stronger than any of the SSJ2s, but still clearly inferior to someone like Majin Boo. In Movie 10, SSJ2 Gohan sure put up a better fight against Broly than anyone did in Movie 8, managing to actually stun him once or twice and escape his hold and outrun him and what-not. But Gohan was still at a clear disadvantage and got taken out pretty quickly. The 3-to-5 comparison I have here fits well for them, if you ask me.



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 4 2013, 05:29 PM Post #5
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Basically Gohan stated he powered up since before meaning he's above he's kid shelf and that would take him at least on Gokus Buu saga level considering the low gap Goku Buu saga had with CG Gohan so LSSj Broly who completly outclassed this Gohan is a SSj2 tier and I have him on Good Buus level
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lazerbem	Nov 4 2013, 05:45 PM Post #6
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Vegeta SSj4 Nov 4 2013, 05:29 PM Basically Gohan stated he powered up since before meaning he's above he's kid shelf and that would take him at least on Gokus Buu saga level considering the low gap Goku Buu saga had with CG Gohan so LSSj Broly who completly outclassed this Gohan is a SSj2 tier and I have him on Good Buus level Gohan said he'd powered up, but the Gohan in Movie 8 was hilariously nerfed and was weaker than Piccolo. Gohan could also just be referring to SSJ2
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 4 2013, 05:46 PM Post #7
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	lazerbem Nov 4 2013, 05:45 PM Vegeta SSj4 Nov 4 2013, 05:29 PM Basically Gohan stated he powered up since before meaning he's above he's kid shelf and that would take him at least on Gokus Buu saga level considering the low gap Goku Buu saga had with CG Gohan so LSSj Broly who completly outclassed this Gohan is a SSj2 tier and I have him on Good Buus level Gohan said he'd powered up, but the Gohan in Movie 8 was hilariously nerfed and was weaker than Piccolo. Gohan could also just be referring to SSJ2 No Gohan is the same as CG unless of course you can prove me wrong
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lazerbem	Nov 4 2013, 07:09 PM Post #8
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Vegeta SSj4 Nov 4 2013, 05:46 PM lazerbem Nov 4 2013, 05:45 PM Vegeta SSj4 Nov 4 2013, 05:29 PM Basically Gohan stated he powered up since before meaning he's above he's kid shelf and that would take him at least on Gokus Buu saga level considering the low gap Goku Buu saga had with CG Gohan so LSSj Broly who completly outclassed this Gohan is a SSj2 tier and I have him on Good Buus level Gohan said he'd powered up, but the Gohan in Movie 8 was hilariously nerfed and was weaker than Piccolo. Gohan could also just be referring to SSJ2 No Gohan is the same as CG unless of course you can prove me wrong Like I said, the Gohan in Movie 8 is weaker than Piccolo judging by how quickly they went down. Also, if Gohan was the same strength as in the Cell Games, why not give the energy to him?
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* Yu Narukami	Nov 4 2013, 07:11 PM Post #9
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Gohan may have been nerfed in Movie 8, but Movie 10 forced the Cell Games into the timeline. Seeing as the Cell Games happened, we can assume that Gohan would be talking about his CG self, seeing as talking about his M8 self would be illogical.



lazerbem	Nov 4 2013, 07:20 PM Post #10
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Naked Snake Nov 4 2013, 07:11 PM Gohan may have been nerfed in Movie 8, but Movie 10 forced the Cell Games into the timeline. Seeing as the Cell Games happened, we can assume that Gohan would be talking about his CG self, seeing as talking about his M8 self would be illogical. You know Gohan could also just be talking about SSJ2.
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Stark.	Nov 4 2013, 07:27 PM Post #11
New Account: Majin Frieza Posts: 424 Group: Duplicate Member #8,827 Joined: January 7, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Code Geass What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Vampire Knight	Naked Snake Nov 4 2013, 07:11 PM Gohan may have been nerfed in Movie 8, but Movie 10 forced the Cell Games into the timeline. Seeing as the Cell Games happened, we can assume that Gohan would be talking about his CG self, seeing as talking about his M8 self would be illogical. Why would it be illogical? "And here I'm supposed to have powered up since back then!" Basically he could be referring to either his CG self or when he last fought Broly (M8). It's up to you how you interpret it. It's either (more or less) M10 Gohan ~ CG Gohan > M8 Gohan or M10 Gohan > CG Gohan > M8 Gohan
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 4 2013, 07:37 PM Post #12
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	lazerbem Nov 4 2013, 07:09 PM Vegeta SSj4 Nov 4 2013, 05:46 PM lazerbem Nov 4 2013, 05:45 PM Vegeta SSj4 Nov 4 2013, 05:29 PM Basically Gohan stated he powered up since before meaning he's above he's kid shelf and that would take him at least on Gokus Buu saga level considering the low gap Goku Buu saga had with CG Gohan so LSSj Broly who completly outclassed this Gohan is a SSj2 tier and I have him on Good Buus level Gohan said he'd powered up, but the Gohan in Movie 8 was hilariously nerfed and was weaker than Piccolo. Gohan could also just be referring to SSJ2 No Gohan is the same as CG unless of course you can prove me wrong Like I said, the Gohan in Movie 8 is weaker than Piccolo judging by how quickly they went down. Also, if Gohan was the same strength as in the Cell Games, why not give the energy to him? Because by the time the movie was created Goku was suppose to be the main hero and also its not always about power at all skill experience and trust has its role to by the way never judge power gaps of how easily the fighter goes down unless you think Tien is stronger than Trubks when they wer fighting the Cell jrs lol Also like Naked snake said CG have happened in M10 so Gohan saying he power up since he last fought him means something he wouldn't mention such think if he didint know that he was trained after the cell games otherwise why just say he power up after Broly when CG happened?
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* Yu Narukami	Nov 4 2013, 07:48 PM Post #13
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Starrk Nov 4 2013, 07:27 PM Naked Snake Nov 4 2013, 07:11 PM Gohan may have been nerfed in Movie 8, but Movie 10 forced the Cell Games into the timeline. Seeing as the Cell Games happened, we can assume that Gohan would be talking about his CG self, seeing as talking about his M8 self would be illogical. Why would it be illogical? "And here I'm supposed to have powered up since back then!" Basically he could be referring to either his CG self or when he last fought Broly (M8). It's up to you how you interpret it. It's either (more or less) M10 Gohan ~ CG Gohan > M8 Gohan or M10 Gohan > CG Gohan > M8 Gohan Because the Cell Games essentially contradict what we saw in Movie 8. Unless we're to believe that Goku and Gohan went back into the RoSaT, we have to conclude that Gohan's role in M8 was retconned entirely. Unless you want to argue that M8 Gohan ~ Cell Games Gohan, or that Gohan got a humongous boost between M8 and the Cell Games, neither of which are implied.



lazerbem	Nov 4 2013, 07:53 PM Post #14
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Vegeta SSj4 Nov 4 2013, 07:37 PM lazerbem Nov 4 2013, 07:09 PM Vegeta SSj4 Nov 4 2013, 05:46 PM lazerbem Nov 4 2013, 05:45 PM Vegeta SSj4 Nov 4 2013, 05:29 PM Basically Gohan stated he powered up since before meaning he's above he's kid shelf and that would take him at least on Gokus Buu saga level considering the low gap Goku Buu saga had with CG Gohan so LSSj Broly who completly outclassed this Gohan is a SSj2 tier and I have him on Good Buus level Gohan said he'd powered up, but the Gohan in Movie 8 was hilariously nerfed and was weaker than Piccolo. Gohan could also just be referring to SSJ2 No Gohan is the same as CG unless of course you can prove me wrong Like I said, the Gohan in Movie 8 is weaker than Piccolo judging by how quickly they went down. Also, if Gohan was the same strength as in the Cell Games, why not give the energy to him? Because by the time the movie was created Goku was suppose to be the main hero and also its not always about power at all skill experience and trust has its role to by the way never judge power gaps of how easily the fighter goes down unless you think Tien is stronger than Trubks when they wer fighting the Cell jrs lol Also like Naked snake said CG have happened in M10 so Gohan saying he power up since he last fought him means something he wouldn't mention such think if he didint know that he was trained after the cell games otherwise why just say he power up after Broly when CG happened? Tien went down before Trunks, your example is flawed. As for skill, what skill was needed in the finale? It was just punch=death. I still say Gohan was referring to SSJ2 Edited by lazerbem, Nov 4 2013, 07:53 PM.
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~~Stallin'~~	Nov 4 2013, 07:58 PM Post #15
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