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NBA 2013-2014!
Topic Started: Oct 29 2013, 02:09 AM (1,766 Views)
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It truly was a Shawshank redemption

I've been really enjoying the season so far. I'll just list a couple of things that have stood out for me so far:

Anthony Davis has been an absolute beast. 21ppg, almost 11rpg and more than 4bpg (and shooting better than 50% from the field too). The Pelicans have been about as good/bad as I expected, maybe a little worse. I still expect them to be a play-off team once they can work out the chemistry between Holiday, Tyreke and Gordon, but they'll have to play their asses off.

The Timberwolves are relevant again! I'm not as high on them as most people (and they didn't impress against the Clippers last night) but I'm happy to see them playing well. Kevin Love deserves to play in the post-season and show how good he really is.

They're 3rd in the West, but I really don't like the Thunder's chances of winning the title (so far). I would love to be proven wrong, but so far, outside of Durant and Westbrook (and Ibaka, although he was underwhelming as a 2nd option during Westbrook's absence), they don't seem to have anybody else that can carry the load. They have the lowest average margin of victory out of the top 7 teams in the West (outscoring opponents by an average of only +2.1 points), which shows that they're definitely not the powerhouse they once were.

The Nets and Knicks suck. Hard. At this rate they're looking more like contenders for the No.1 pick rather than a title. You'd have to expect them to regroup and make the play-offs (the East is weeeaaak outside of Miami, Indiana and Chicago), but they have a lot to do just to prove they belong in the play-offs, let alone as contenders for the title.
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Apologies for the double-post, but thought I'd bump the topic.

I haven't watched much outside of highlights for the past week or so, but I've watched the Denver vs Toronto game today and am currently watching the Clippers vs Pacers game.

The Denver/Toronto game was surprisingly good. Nice, quick tempo to the game, couple nice plays. I love watching Andre Miller. He just has such a cool, composed game. He never seems to force the issue and just plays comfortably and at his own pace. Denver looked a lot better than they were at the beginning of the season. They're at 10-6 now and well in the middle of the play-off teams in the loaded West, so it looks like Brian Shaw is beginning to get the team playing the way he wants them to.

3rd quarter of the Clippers/Pacers game. Pacers have been in control most of the game. This is the first time I've watched a full Pacers game all season (I think) and Paul George is looking incredible. He won Most Improved Player last season, but he's taken just as big a leap this season and he could be the first ever player to win it twice.
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AGHH Westbrook is a cold-blooded killer!
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Yeah. I don't know what was more impressive: the 3 for the win, or the fact that he managed to win the rebound when he was giving up at least half a foot in height to everyone around him. OKC are 12-3 and 9-0 at home. I'm still not sold on them being legitimate contenders, but they're hanging around the elite teams (San Antonio, Miami and Indiana, I would include Portland but they're new to this type of record so could still fall back to Earth) without looking elite, so that's a good sign for when/if they start looking like contenders.

Anthony Davis is possibly out. Fractured left hand, so I don't know how long he'll be out for, but I can only imagine it'll be at least a month. I think that's curtains for New Orleans play-off hopes. The West is so tight and they were barely hanging in there anyway. Good news for Philly as they get their 1st rounder.
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Estrella I hope you're not watching the Bulls game lol

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Dec 12 2013, 03:28 AM
Estrella I hope you're not watching the Bulls game lol
*BARFS* it was like watching 5th graders play pick-up basketball.
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The Knicks have been horrible. And that's an understatement :p If I were a Knicks fan, I'd be worried. They're so poorly run it's unbelievable. They've gutted their roster to make Carmelo happy and contend now, and that's failed, and everyone knows how fickle Carmelo is. I wouldn't be surprised if he jumped ship at the end of this season.

On the plus side though, I've read talk of a trade with Toronto for Kyle Lowry. I really rate Lowry, and the Knicks' guard play has been just atrocious. Looks like they'll have to give up Shumpert to get him, which isn't ideal considering he and Hardaway Jr. are the only young guys with promise on the team, but I think it's more important to keep Melo happy, and to do that they need to get back into semi-contention.
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Stephen Curry is the best guard in the NBA not named Chris Paul.

And if Currys defense was even average, he would be the best guard period.
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rap attack.............

damn russels injury is gonna hurt OKC
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Stephen Curry is the best guard in the NBA not named Chris Paul.

And if Currys defense was even average, he would be the best guard period.
No way. Chris Paul is possibly the arguably best defensive point guard. Defense is half the game. Even if you have Curry as the best offensive point guard, Chris Paul is also arguably the best offensive point guard. CP3 is also a much, much better passer and floor+locker room general.

His all around game is just better than Curry.

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curry is a better 3 pointer shooter and avgs more points
the rest is all cp3

heck this year alone, paul has more assists,is shooting from the field better and better free throws to add the def game like itachi mentioned is literally half the game, and the leadership

HMC worded his post funny he might have been saying currys the best cept for cp3

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Yeah I guess that might have been worded funny.

I was saying that besides CP3, Curry is the best guard in the entire NBA.

and with Paul out 3-5 weeks, Curry IS the best guard in the NBA.

I also must say if you believe Paul to be a MUCH better passer, you havent watched enough of Curry. Dude is nearly as good a distrbutor as Paul. Assist numbers may not show it but thats because Curry is a scorer first.
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I was about to come in with a whole "Chris Paul beats Curry hands down" post, but comparing the stats it's a lot closer than I thought. Curry's a better scorer. Paul's a better defender. I think it comes down to Paul having a much better control of the game than Curry. Curry averages almost 10 apg (9.6), but he turns it over more than 4 times a game, which is a problem. Paul gets more assists per game (11.2) and turns it over about half as much. At the end of the day, I'd take Paul in a series over Curry. He's a team-first guy, if he's having an off game he knows it, he won't force up shots, he'll get his team involved more. Curry shoots a lot more and will keep shooting. If he's having a bad shooting night (which admittedly doesn't happen very often) then I don't trust him to adjust his game for that.

Edit: I've also heard some rumours of a possible Carmelo Anthony for Blake Griffin trade. What do you all make of that? My first thought was that if I was NY I'd jump on this deal immediately. But even though Griffin's probably the better, younger player, he doesn't do much to help them immediately. They'd still be in a bit of a pickle in terms of their roster and waiting for certain players contracts to run down/get traded *cough*JRSmith&AmareStoudemire*cough*. But if it looks like Melo's gonna leave them at the end of the season then they have to go through with it. For the Clippers, I think at a push they should do it. But they're really short on the frontline, and would definitely need to address the hole at PF losing Griffin would leave. Either that or start Melo at PF, although he's been against that in the past. But man, pairing Melo with CP3 would be so deadly. CP3 would be able to feed Melo perfect passes all game long, and still have Deandre Jordan to throw lobs to, with Redd ick spotting up for 3.
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i also heard of that trade, i wouldnt do it
i mean sure anthony might be a good short term fix but in the long run i would rather have blake


KD puts up 48 points to lead OKC to the W, wow, could have shot from the field better but whatever

freethrows win games, is what my coach used to say well
big factor tonight
OKC shooting just under 97 percent WTF unreal, for FT
scoring 27 of 28

opp scored 61 percent whelp theres a game changer
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Curry gets passes in because defenders can't play the passing lane on him. He's a good passer, but not near Paul's level since people are looking out for CP3's passes. It's just that Curry's super hot shooting makes up for so much other stuff he does. It's similar to Nash with Dantoni. Albeit Nash is arguably the best passer of all time, he was often shooting the same way you see Curry doing now. What the warriors have now is very similar to Dantoni's old offense - pick and roll to the inside man, and if not shoot the open 3.

I know this is said a lot and used as examples all the time but I still agree with it. Dantoni's system doesn't win you championships.

I got a little side tracked but yeah I see the argument for Curry being the best point guard currently.

As for the blake for melo trade, I see it as horrible for both teams. Paul and Blake have a ton of chemistry that's improving all the time. Subsisting that for a new player with a different style won't work and could end being a huge mistake. If the clips want melo, I say they wait it out till free agency.

Blake will be very useless on the knicks since teams easily exploit the knicks by crowding the paint. For some reason they don't do kickouts really well. It just ends up being 20 bricked threes a game.

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