Freeza's Stamina

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Freeza's Stamina

Topic Started: Oct 28 2013, 04:09 AM (949 Views)

Mihawk

Oct 28 2013, 04:09 AM Post #1

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I'd like to see SSJ Goku fight 100% Freeza without

Fighting Piccolo
Losing a ton of ki by losing his tail to Krillin
Losing a huge chunk to genkidama

Freeza would be nearly in equal PL. Something like Goku vs Majin Vegeta.

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Oct 28 2013, 04:12 AM Post #2

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Freeza was already 100%

It's illogical to think otherwise since Freeza himself stated he was 100%.

the fight would go as it had, just a tad longer. All the fights beforehand did was lessen the amount of stamina he had, not power.

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Exactly that. Freeza said he was reaching 100% so we have no choice but to go with that. I guess powering up can bring them back to 100%.

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Oct 28 2013, 04:22 AM Post #4

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He was at 100% but during the battle his stamina issue kicked in. I'm saying do you think the bout where he was winning is enough to say he was very close in PL.

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I'd heavily assume that Freeza lost very little stamina while in lower forms considering that all of those forms were less than even 10% of his actual power; he even grew his tail back after transforming.

Also, taking damage isn't necessarily synonymous with losing stamina; getting jumped would necessarily tire a person out if they aren't even, or are only, putting up half of an effort in trying to stop it.

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Edit: To elucidate slightly, in the manga at least, Freeza plain lost; he was outdone by Son Goku. Freeza had to contort his body (in reaching 100%) to match Son Goku, who did not need to do so. I would assume that they would have been more stamina lost in Freeza having to achieve and maintain 100% power than Freeza even attempting to stop Genki Dama.

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Oct 28 2013, 11:22 AM Post #6

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I don't think Frieza would he equal to Goku still,he stated he is 100% then Imo he is at he's fullest he's previous battles don't matter much he was still weaker than Goku even without all the stamina lose ^_^

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Oct 28 2013, 01:26 PM Post #7

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As a side-note, 100% was referring to Freeza's battlepower. He doesn't have replenishing ki.

As for the stamina itself, I agree with Biz.

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IMo
In the anime frieza might have some chance against goku ...

in the manga still lose badly

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Oct 28 2013, 05:45 PM Post #9

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Frieza would've done anything and made any excuse to continue asserting himself as the most powerful in the universe. If he really was unable to power up to 100% b/c of the Spirit Bomb, then he would've said to Goku or to himself that he still is the strongest in the universe and blame the Spirit Bomb incident. Instead, though his statement of reaching 100% power remained uncontradicted.

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The fight would last longer, thought he end result would remain the same. Before Freeza's stamina hit its low end, he was literally trading blow for blow with Goku, even momentarily getting the advantage over the Saiyan. Freeza was already at a level that rivaled, I'd argue damn nearly equally, to SSJ Goku. But where as Goku had stamina to spare, Freeza did not.

You can look at the fight in the manga. Before Goku starts going on about Freeza's stamina (Which was around the time he got off that combo on him) Freeza and Goku are pretty much trading blows. Everytime Goku gets a hit in, Freeza gets a hit in. His biggest problem was that his stamina was just plain **** at the time.

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Oct 28 2013, 08:05 PM
The fight would last longer, thought he end result would remain the same. Before Freeza's stamina hit its low end, he was literally trading blow for blow with Goku, even momentarily getting the advantage over the Saiyan. Freeza was already at a level that rivaled, I'd argue damn nearly equally, to SSJ Goku. But where as Goku had stamina to spare, Freeza did not.

You can look at the fight in the manga. Before Goku starts going on about Freeza's stamina (Which was around the time he got off that combo on him) Freeza and Goku are pretty much trading blows. Everytime Goku gets a hit in, Freeza gets a hit in. His biggest problem was that his stamina was just plain **** at the time.

So you think Goku would lose at Frieza without stamina lose :huh:

?i remember a line of Goku in the english dub that he's punches are making more damage to Frieza than Friezas to him Imo don't know is that's canon though :lol:

@La Fleur is there a diffenrce bettwen Anime and Manga?

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Oct 29 2013, 12:49 AM Post #12

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If Freeza's stamina wasn't an issue, then they'd be fighting until the planet exploded. No doubt Goku had the edge in their fight, but it wasn't great enough to finish Freeza in the little time they had left.

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The fight would last longer, thought he end result would remain the same. Before Freeza's stamina hit its low end, he was literally trading blow for blow with Goku, even momentarily getting the advantage over the Saiyan. Freeza was already at a level that rivaled, I'd argue damn nearly equally, to SSJ Goku. But where as Goku had stamina to spare, Freeza did not.

You can look at the fight in the manga. Before Goku starts going on about Freeza's stamina (Which was around the time he got off that combo on him) Freeza and Goku are pretty much trading blows. Everytime Goku gets a hit in, Freeza gets a hit in. His biggest problem was that his stamina was just plain **** at the time.
So you think Goku would lose at Frieza without stamina lose ?i remember a line of Goku in the english dub that he's punches are making more damage to Frieza than Friezas to him Imo don't know is that's canon though
@La Fleur is there a diffenrce bettwen Anime and Manga?

There ain't nothing about punches in the manga, unless you mean Freeza's initial onslaught on Goku once Freeza reached 100% and both of them were basically implied to be going easy at that point.

It's not that Goku would lose, its just that the fight would last much longer. Stamina is what keeps Freeza from lasting in a fight and thus for him, to win he has to get the job done quickly. Freeza doesn't have that capability with Goku, so therefore Freeza can't win. His powers are enough to rival Goku, but he doesn't have the oomph to his body to keep it up.

To put in terms of an analogy, you could think of it as two people arm wrestling. Both of them are relatively equal in power. However one of them (Freeza) has just arm wrestled another person. His stamina has dropped and so against the other person (Goku) he uses a strainful expression of his full strength (100%) and can hold his own against the other opponent for a short while. However the strain becomes too much, his stamina begins to deplete and slowly starts to lose while his opponent (Goku) still has much stamina to go by. That's pretty much what happened with Freeza, he had to utilize a burst of power to get on Goku's level and then slowly drained himself.

If the fight went and Freeza didn't have this problem, Goku would still most likely win, but he'd have to force himself and use much of his stamina to get the job done as well.

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Thnaks a lot Brofist that explains it very well ^_^

becuase I was wondering if Frieza had a change without stamina loss but it seems eventually he would still lose

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