Would Have Tien's Spirit Tri-Beam Killed Nappa?

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Would Have Tien's Spirit Tri-Beam Killed Nappa?
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EMIYA	Oct 24 2013, 02:50 AM Post #31
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+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 24 2013, 12:06 PM Post #32
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Emmeth Oct 24 2013, 01:55 AM Vegeta SSj4 Oct 23 2013, 07:18 PM Emmeth Oct 23 2013, 01:20 AM Vegeta SSj4 Oct 21 2013, 12:35 PM Well I don't think that Tiens Tri beam was stronger than Gohan's Masenko so I don't really see it doing any significant damage at all Nappa was ready for Gohan's Masenko. He was just quick enough to block Tenshinhan's Kikoho Even so Nappa eating an attack who is weaker than 2.800 would certainly not kill him even though he didn't exerted the kikoho it was still a weak attack there's no way it could kill him in my opinion the only Z fighters attack that could kill him was Krllins Kienzan Tenshinhan's amp was probably a lot bigger than Gohan's Masenko. Ten is an experienced fighter who knows his attacks well. Gohan was not at that time. Well we have saw in the manga that the only attack that Vegetas Scouter noticed as the most powerfull was Gohan's Masenko on Nappa which was stated to be at 2.800 on the manga no power statements have been made about Tiens kikoho so I'm assuming its weaker
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+ Emmeth	Oct 24 2013, 10:29 PM Post #33
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Vegeta SSj4 Oct 24 2013, 12:06 PM Emmeth Oct 24 2013, 01:55 AM Vegeta SSj4 Oct 23 2013, 07:18 PM Emmeth Oct 23 2013, 01:20 AM Vegeta SSj4 Oct 21 2013, 12:35 PM Well I don't think that Tiens Tri beam was stronger than Gohan's Masenko so I don't really see it doing any significant damage at all Nappa was ready for Gohan's Masenko. He was just quick enough to block Tenshinhan's Kikoho Even so Nappa eating an attack who is weaker than 2.800 would certainly not kill him even though he didn't exerted the kikoho it was still a weak attack there's no way it could kill him in my opinion the only Z fighters attack that could kill him was Krllins Kienzan Tenshinhan's amp was probably a lot bigger than Gohan's Masenko. Ten is an experienced fighter who knows his attacks well. Gohan was not at that time. Well we have saw in the manga that the only attack that Vegetas Scouter noticed as the most powerfull was Gohan's Masenko on Nappa which was stated to be at 2.800 on the manga no power statements have been made about Tiens kikoho so I'm assuming its weaker I'm assuming Tenshinhan's Kikoho can't be sensed by a scouter because it's not that type of energy.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2013, 12:29 PM Post #34
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+ Emmeth	Oct 26 2013, 12:30 PM Post #35
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Vegeta SSj4 Oct 26 2013, 12:29 PM And what type of energy is it?Kikoho is ki as well so why not been sensed by the Scouter? It's not normal chi. It's life energy, and I would think the scouter couldn't pick that up.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2013, 12:31 PM Post #36
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+ Emmeth	Oct 26 2013, 12:37 PM Post #37
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Vegeta SSj4 Oct 26 2013, 12:31 PM But Kikoho means Ki canon the manga translations says that also Ki=Life force Chapter: 132, P14.1 Kame-sennin: "It's a technique that holds outrageous destructive power...many levels above even the Kamehameha...However, because of this extreme terribleness, it fiercely depletes one's own energy, and they say people have even died from it...Even if one doesn't die, one's lifespan will undoubtedly be shortened..." Also, AT has talked about 3 different types of energy: Akira Toriyama When it comes to battle, the most important thing is KI SIZE, and its control. Of course, "ki" also includes such spiritual power as energy/vigor [genki] and bravery [yuuki], and being in one's right mind [shouki] (note 11). There's a limit to physical strength, no matter how much you toughen it up, and the only way to overcome that it is with "ki". I think that it was through turning ki into formidable power that Goku drew closer to being the strongest warrior in the universe. Not sure how much this proves my point, but there it is.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2013, 12:40 PM Post #38
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Kikoho is a tekxnique many levels above KHH becuase it uses way more life force than KHH does Also since Kikoho undoubted has ki on it there's no reason to assume tagt the scouters are incapable of detecting its power Scouter detects ki and ki attacks Kikoho uses ki
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lunar2	Oct 26 2013, 03:27 PM Post #39
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	here's the thing. kikoho is many levels above the basic kamehameha. it's not that much greater than the super kamehameha.
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Mihawk	Oct 26 2013, 03:44 PM Post #40
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Vegeta SSj4 Oct 26 2013, 12:40 PM Kikoho is a tekxnique many levels above KHH becuase it uses way more life force than KHH does Also since Kikoho undoubted has ki on it there's no reason to assume tagt the scouters are incapable of detecting its power Scouter detects ki and ki attacks Kikoho uses ki Khh doesn't use life force. Kihoho does. It's clearly stated they both tap into different energy sources.



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2013, 03:45 PM Post #41
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	But ki=life force!and KHH=Ki so Kemehameha uses life force to Edited by Majin Vegeta, Oct 26 2013, 03:45 PM.
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Mihawk	Oct 26 2013, 04:19 PM Post #42
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	That's the Wikipedia definition. Even the Dragonball wiki is a better source of information in this case.



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2013, 04:54 PM Post #43
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lunar2	Oct 26 2013, 06:43 PM Post #44
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	that's ki in the mystical sense. ki in the dragonball sense is just energy. genki is life force/physical condition in dragonball, and it is one of the 3 things that determine how much ki you have. genki is what the kikoho draws on, just like the genki dama.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 27 2013, 01:55 PM Post #45
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