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| + Ginyu | Oct 17 2013, 08:50 AM Post #16 |
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HA! I'm Dutch! Guess that's another thing to be proud of ![]() I have to say my body is in okay shape right now but I'll just have to see what it's like when I'm geting into my 30s idk what we're doing different than Americans though. but that's mostly because I've never been to America, if you have any questions about our eating and sporting habits, feel free to ask |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Oct 17 2013, 09:01 AM Post #17 |
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I don't know if this matters or not but sometimes it's more expensive to eat healthy then it is to eat unhealthy. On another note I don't know if i'd blame it on genetics but Jeez louise, i've been working out for 2 months and after everytime im sweating like a pig, yet I'm still stuck at 235. It's ridiculous and it's frustrating me beyond belief! |
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| Pookie | Oct 17 2013, 03:05 PM Post #18 |
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This is the worst excuse I have ever heard from lots of people. Sorry, I don't mean to point it out because I know that this is a generalization that most people make about healthy food vs unhealthy food. For a box of pizza, it is ten dollars right? If you go to pizza hut, a box of pizza is ten dollars. http://www.pizzahut.com/ However, a whole chicken costs about 5-6 dollars. This is a whole chicken that can feed a family of four and costs about 4 to 5 dollars less. A double whopper is 3.29. You know what I can buy with that money? I can buy a week supply of deli meat and whole wheat bread. While I will eat that double whopper in one sitting, I'll have deli meat for the entire week. The assumption that you can't eat healthy b/c it is too expensive is wrong. You can buy 5 or 6 apples for 2.50. Those are just primary examples of how that excuse is wrong and invalid. People just don't eat healthy because it isn't convenient like a fast food place or junk food. Edited by Pookie, Oct 17 2013, 03:06 PM.
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| Buuberries | Oct 17 2013, 03:20 PM Post #19 |
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Idk I think Connor and Pelador have a point on that. At university I did my shopping every fortnight, and spent about £40-50. I rarely bought junk food -- maybe a tub of ice-cream every now and again or whatever -- but mostly I bought ingredients to cook my meals from scratch, and maybe a few canned stuff because cooking everyday gets a bit tedious especially when you've had a busy day. Imagine a family of four or more -- that potentially comes up to over £100 a week. Some of my other housemates bought a lot of junk yet spent far less than I did even though they had more food than me. When it comes to families with kids who are too young to cook for themselves and parents who are too busy, it's just so simple to buy ready meals you can cook in 15 minutes by throwing it in the oven or microwave as opposed to spending 30-60 minutes preparing ingredients and cooking something from scratch. Same for students: you have lectures all day, go do whatever it is you do throughout the day, and you get home and you just can't be bothered to cook. I don't know about supermarkets in other countries, but over here I see a hell of a lot of deals like two pizzas for the price of one, numerous packs of ready meals for like £2, a box of pies for £1, and so on, as opposed to spending close to £10 just for one meal. It's easy to avoid all that if you have the money to spare. I rarely bought anything for myself other than food and alcohol, so I was able to eat healthy food for the most part, but it's definitely much harder for people who are on a budget. edit: got biweekly confused with fortnight wtf Edited by Buuberries, Oct 17 2013, 05:27 PM.
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| Pookie | Oct 17 2013, 03:46 PM Post #20 |
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So as a student or a kid, you can't spend five minutes making a sandwich? I don't know about you, but I never took more than five minutes making a healthier sandwich. The bottom line is there are plenty of meals you can make that don't take that long to prepare. If you want to eat healthy as a student, you can still do that. I went to school full time, I played College soccer so I rarely ever had time, and so I believe there are always healthier choices people can make, but they CHOOSE not too. When I'd go into the cafeteria, there were healthier choices that students tended to ignore. They went for the burger and fries instead of going for a salad or a healthier sandwich. Foods you can prepare that take less than 10 minutes and are much healthier: A tuna salad Oatmeal Whole Wheat Sandwich Whole Wheat Wraps Fruit Salad Lettuce Wraps Vegetable Omelette Steak Also, just because you eat unhealthy, doesn't mean you can't count your calories either. There have been studies that have shown people lose weight, by eating only junk food, just from counting their calories. To me, there really isn't an excuse. EDIT: Healthy vs. Unhealthy Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Buuberries | Oct 17 2013, 04:06 PM Post #21 |
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Nope. After a full day of lectures and going to the gym, all I'm going to want to do is go home, shower, and go to bed. I was fine since a bowl of tomato soup and half a tuna sandwich was enough to satisfy me, but for a lot of people I'd imagine that wouldn't be enough. Healthier foods are just more expensive in general. Those are also bad examples since they're comparing fast food with store-bought food. If I were to go down to Tesco or Asda right now and compared store-bought unhealthy foods with their healthy selections, the easily prepared process s*** would no doubt be much cheaper. And just a quick note for anyone watching their weight: too much fruit is bad for you. Edit: I'm also not advocating unhealthy eating or encouraging making piss-poor excuses; I've already stated my opinion on my first post. I'm just saying that there are some people who are held back financially. Edited by Buuberries, Oct 17 2013, 04:47 PM.
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| + Pelador | Oct 17 2013, 04:43 PM Post #22 |
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Food is hella expensive here compared to America. At least £5.00 for a whole chicken. £15 if you want it organic. Potatoes £1.60/kg. 300 grams of broccoli £2.00. 70p for a cabbage. 6 pints of milk £2.00. £2.00 for six eggs. That's basically £13 just for an omelet. On the other hand, you could buy a microwave meal for one for 99p. |
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| + Ginyu | Oct 17 2013, 05:03 PM Post #23 |
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microwave meals are the worst of them all |
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| + Pelador | Oct 17 2013, 05:05 PM Post #24 |
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But if you can't cook to save your life and you're sick of sandwiches and cereal then what choice do you have? |
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| Pookie | Oct 17 2013, 05:27 PM Post #25 |
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I gave a couple of good examples though. There were 3 examples of store food vs store food. The bagged/frozen stuff are all store food stuff. I think some of it is a load of bull though. You can find healthy food for cheap, but people want the convenient stuff. One question Buu: In the long run, which one DO you think would come out more expensive? I can tell you right now that it wouldn't be junk food or processed crap. Edited by Pookie, Oct 17 2013, 05:29 PM.
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| Buuberries | Oct 17 2013, 05:30 PM Post #26 |
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No idea about over there, but over here it's definitely the processed crap. As I've said, two of my housemates spent far less than I did whenever we went shopping, yet they always had more food than me. I shopped for full meals whereas they shopped for the cheap crap.
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| Pookie | Oct 17 2013, 05:33 PM Post #27 |
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In the long run, it wouldn't be junk food at all. I am talking about adding in factors such as paying for medication for high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. These are all things to take into consideration when we are talking about expenses. While in some cases junk food is cheaper in that instant, is it really "cheaper" in the long run? At the same time, I find it hard to believe that people can't find healthy alternatives for a good price. I really do because I live in an area where the cost of living is extremely high. Other things you can do to "afford" healthier eating styles -Don't buy soda and drink water instead -Coupons, in some cases, can help someone get healthier food for cheaper. There are coupons for junk food too, but in general there are coupons for a lot of items. Edited by Pookie, Oct 17 2013, 05:36 PM.
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| Buuberries | Oct 17 2013, 05:38 PM Post #28 |
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that's steering away from our actual discussion, though. the issue we're talking about is access to healthy food and being able to afford them in the first place. some people just can't afford to pay so much for healthy food. as pelador and I have said, we're from a different country. for us here in england, it's expensive to buy healthy food -- or at least it is in London where I'm originally from, and the midlands where I moved to for uni... and I guess Plymouth or wherever Pelador is from.
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| Strawberry | Oct 17 2013, 06:43 PM Post #29 |
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Bad eating habits mixed with a highly sedentary lifestyle in a society of comsuption and capitalism = daaaanger. That's actually something that scares me a lot, whenever I imagine how we're going to be in the future my mind automatically takes me to that ((amazing)) pixar flick Wall-E where humans had gotten to such an advanced stage of technology and comfort that they could barely move when they got off their flying mobile chairs Does anyone remember that? It was a pretty clever caricature, me thinks.
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| Pookie | Oct 17 2013, 06:52 PM Post #30 |
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To what you said Buuberries
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Does anyone remember that? It was a pretty clever caricature, me thinks.






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