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Base Gotenks Pre vs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Kid Gohan
Topic Started: Oct 12 2013, 03:34 PM (1,103 Views)
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lol lunar2 he survived for plot
if he died then what the earth goes boom, cause noone else would stand up to fat buu
its not that he had the ability to survive but he had to or the story could not progress

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i don think those are minor injuries, he said he got the crap beaten out of him
his clothes are tattered and his whole body is bruised and his face his more swollen then a face getting stung by a hive of bees
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Oct 12 2013, 10:38 PM
Base Gotenks was stronger because he thought he could beat Boo even though Vegeta couldn't and Krillin also said Base Gotenks might win even though he was way off.
maybe krillin wasn't way off. krillin is the guy with the abnormal ability to tell how strong his opponents are, remember. maybe gotenks really was close enough to buu that he would have had a chance if he was a serious fighter. the fact that gotenks wasn't even badly injured by the fight suggests as much.
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Gotenks looks badly hurt and says he got an a*** whooping :) . Piccolo also says Base Gotenks doesn't stand a chance. By the sound of the context Krillin was wishful thinking. Like when Piccolo thought Base Gotenks (post) could beat Super Boo because of the surprising power he felt from Gotenks.

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Boo > > > > Base Gotenks > > SSJ2 Goku

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Oct 12 2013, 11:59 PM
Gotenks looks badly hurt and says he got an a*** whooping :) . Piccolo also says Base Gotenks doesn't stand a chance. By the sound of the context Krillin was wishful thinking. Like when Piccolo thought Base Gotenks (post) could beat Super Boo because of the surprising power he felt from Gotenks.

My opinion
Boo > > > > Base Gotenks > > SSJ2 Goku

gotenks had a black eye and a few scrapes. that is not "badly hurt". gotenks was able to escape from buu, who has already been proven to be very very fast. so at the very least, gotenks is faster than buu. buu was fast enough to fight with ssj3 goku. therefore, gotenks is fast enough to fight with ssj3 goku. therefore, base gotenks speedblitzes all the ssj2s we've been shown in the series.
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lol lunar2 look at the context of the events
he had to survive otherwise no one would fight fat buu
its for plot not that he actually could survive

and it doesnt matter what he looks like even though he clearly got thrashed
he said he got the crap beaten out of him ?????
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Oct 13 2013, 12:09 AM
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Oct 12 2013, 11:59 PM
Gotenks looks badly hurt and says he got an a*** whooping :) . Piccolo also says Base Gotenks doesn't stand a chance. By the sound of the context Krillin was wishful thinking. Like when Piccolo thought Base Gotenks (post) could beat Super Boo because of the surprising power he felt from Gotenks.

My opinion
Boo > > > > Base Gotenks > > SSJ2 Goku

gotenks had a black eye and a few scrapes. that is not "badly hurt". gotenks was able to escape from buu, who has already been proven to be very very fast. so at the very least, gotenks is faster than buu. buu was fast enough to fight with ssj3 goku. therefore, gotenks is fast enough to fight with ssj3 goku. therefore, base gotenks speedblitzes all the ssj2s we've been shown in the series.
Gotenks had an eye shaped like a balloon and we didn't see how he got away from Boo.
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Oct 13 2013, 12:13 AM
lol lunar2 look at the context of the events
he had to survive otherwise no one would fight fat buu
its for plot not that he actually could survive

and it doesnt matter what he looks like even though he clearly got thrashed
he said he got the crap beaten out of him ?????
plot determines power, but plot does not happen in spite of power.

gotenks is faster than buu, simple as that. it doesn't matter why he is faster, the fact is that he is faster. he is not slower, but managed to escape anyway. he is faster. and whatever makes him faster than buu, makes him faster than all the ssj2s we are ever shown.
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We didn't see how he got away from Boo.


Boo is said to be allot stronger by Piccolo meaning he would be faster as well. Gotenks got away threw another situation other than outpacing Boo.
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guess gotenks base and ssj is on super buu level to then
and u gohan is on buutenks level
cause they survived and outlasted
doesnt make sense
truth of the matter is they could have been killed at any time but werent


we dont know anything about gotenks he was able to fly away and escape cause the plot needed him to survive
BUT it does show that ssj2's couldnt beat buu neither could base gotenks
so a parallel is made

u cant just say hes stronger cause he survived and out lasted and outran fat buu, we just dont know what happened cept
he could beaten bad, to add other piss weak heroes have done that too bro
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Oct 12 2013, 08:30 PM
Base Gotenks has to be around or above the adults in order for the SSJ transformed Gotenks to be considerably more powerful than SSJ3 Goku. Also, SSJ2 Kid Gohan is comparable to the adults as well.

SSJ2 Kid Gohan: 20-23.59
SSJ2 Adults: 25
Fat Buu: 55-58.98
SSJ3 Goku: 60
Base Gotenks pre: 25-30
SSJ Gotenks pre: 95


Gotenks owns them both, not easily though, however if he aint serious he'd dies. And seeing that he's cocky he will most likely perish.

If they are pretty much equal in power Gohan and Vegeta working together should be able to win this Gotenks ^_^
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