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Where do you guys place Ultimate Goku? (Buu Saga)
Topic Started: Oct 11 2013, 01:04 PM (1,375 Views)
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Oct 13 2013, 12:56 AM
I don't even know if Goku has much Potential TBH.

His max potential could be his SSJ3 power for all we know.
No it's not. Are you forgetting the 28th Budokai? Goku is stronger than Good Boo in base, so his SSJ 3 is not his max power.
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Oct 13 2013, 02:17 AM
sm11211
Oct 13 2013, 12:56 AM
I don't even know if Goku has much Potential TBH.

His max potential could be his SSJ3 power for all we know.
No it's not. Are you forgetting the 28th Budokai? Goku is stronger than Good Boo in base, so his SSJ 3 is not his max power.
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

His potential seems to increase the more he trains.
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Aren't I supposed to be the resident Goku fan here? :lol:

Yeah, you guys have a point here. SSJ4 would make him somewhat above SSJ Post RoSaT Gotenks so a Mystic power up would bring him at or above SSJ2 Gotenks.
Edited by Yusuke, Oct 13 2013, 03:26 AM.
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I'd put him stronger inbetween SSJ3 Gotenks and Mystic Gohan/
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if we take BOG into account then he would be above bills

if not then i dunno, potenial is just what works for plot

gohan and krillen on namek- to beat some of the weaker guys untill stronger guys come along and even then....

magin vegeta- to equal goku and raise the kili meter

u gohan- to be stronger then super buu

if goku just got stronger just cause he wont get much stronger
but if plot needed it then he could be stronger then even super buu
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Ssj2 Gotenks post? Nah, I'm thinking like in between base and ssj gotenks post
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SuperSaiyan2
Oct 13 2013, 02:17 AM
sm11211
Oct 13 2013, 12:56 AM
I don't even know if Goku has much Potential TBH.

His max potential could be his SSJ3 power for all we know.
No it's not. Are you forgetting the 28th Budokai? Goku is stronger than Good Boo in base, so his SSJ 3 is not his max power.
You're confusing "potential" with "hidden ki". Thanks to the crappy job that FUNI did with discerning the two, I can understand your confusion.

Hidden ki is a latent reserve that exists inside someone. Normally, the only way someone can access this reserve is either through transforming or getting angry, but never-the-less, unless they have it brought out artificially, it will always exist just out of their reach.
A Saiyan transforms into a Super Saiyan by drawing on this hidden reserve, however, Super Saiyan itself uses ki to transform and to stay transformed. This is the one reason why all SSj forms, even MSSj, will always be inferior to base. Due to you needing to use ki to transform or stay transformed, you can never truly reach your full fighting potential in a transformed state.
With Gohan's ki being awakened, he's then able to use all his ki without needing to use inferior transformations in order to access these reserves. Therefore, he's always able to fight at his absolute peak.

However, this doesn't mean that Gohan can't get stronger if he trains, it's just that he simply has no more reserves to draw on in order to initiate a transformation. DBZ characters seem to have an unlimited range when it comes to power. They never hit a peak, and constantly get stronger if they train hard enough.

However, as for the actual discussion, I really believe that Goku's peak is his power in SSj3. However, because of the excessive ki consumption in SSj3, we never actually see his full power in the series. If Goku were to have his ki awakened at the same time Gohan did, I can see him possibly rivaling SSj Gotenks Post.

He'd of course get stronger if he kept training, but he'd no longer have hidden reserves.
Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Oct 16 2013, 04:28 AM.
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Oct 15 2013, 12:31 AM
I'd put him stronger inbetween SSJ3 Gotenks and Mystic Gohan/
Well that's a bit to much :lol: on topic I think that an initial SSj4 Is in bettwen SSj Gitenks post and SSj2 one so a mystic one should made him be at SSj2 Gitenks post for me ^_^
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