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Android 19 vs Frieza
Topic Started: Oct 10 2013, 12:46 AM (645 Views)
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19 post Goku's energy.
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Android 19 in both scenarios. You'll probably get a better answer from someone else.
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Here is a good topic to explain the powers of the android arc fighters. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8402346/1/

Op: I have no reason to believe that 19 was ever weaker than Freeza.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I'm not really going to argue either way, but for my own belief.

Goku was told by Trunks that two cyborgs with power that would slaughter Freeza even faster than he did would be arriving. As far as they know, these are the cyborgs and they find out they can't sense their energy but they do have the knowledge from Trunks.

For me, Goku at the very least needs to use power that is significantly above the likes of Freeza, otherwise he's kind of ignoring Trunks' warning and upon his initial transformation, No. 20 states that it was still at a level that he and No. 19 could handle.

For me, that's enough to say that No. 19>Freeza.
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I have 19 and 20 (pre-absorption) below 100% Frieza TBH. Trunks's warning specifaclly relates to 17 and 18.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

There's your problem right now. You assume that because the cyborgs aren't the ones Trunks is talking about, they can't be stronger than Freeza.

But Goku and the others do not know this. They think they're facing the real cyborgs and they're specifically told by Trunks that these guys are hellishly powerful and would decimate Freeza with their robotic eye-lids.
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Well isn't that only the initial assumption they have right? I could be wrong here.
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Android 19 wins even if he's pre absorbtions.
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19 wins in both scenarios 19 post smashes Frieza pre well he wins still but not easily ^_^
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According to the prince of Saiyans, the little clownish android was a bunch of oatmeal crap after stealing Kakarot's power. He could be on Freezer's level beforehand, but he could also be a pile of sexual bolts. It's his random ability to absorb energy that daunts the tyrant's chances of victory here.
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"Corona veniat electis."

Android 19 has this. Freeza is below him and absorption just tips the favour even more.
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regardless of #19's initial power, frieza has a nasty habit of spamming ki blasts. even if #19 starts off weaker than frieza, he won't stay that way for long.

not that i'm saying #19 pre is weaker than frieza. i'm not. i think he's several times as powerful as frieza, i'm just making an observation about frieza's tactics.
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Well yeah Friezas tactics are a little off ,like DP said its possible that Frieza is stronger than 19 pre due to Vegeta calling them weak machines or so but I still have them above him lol
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