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General Boxing thread
Tweet Topic Started: Sep 18 2013, 01:01 PM (550 Views)
+ Pelador	Sep 18 2013, 01:01 PM Post #1
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Talk about boxing in here. I'm going to start with the upcoming Fury-Haye fight. This should be good, if not down right epic. Both have shown they have huge KO power. There is no way in heck that this is going to points. Somebody is getting knocked out. I think if Fury uses the right game plan then he can tire Haye out. But I think Haye only needs to land one big hook to beat Fury. Tyson Fury doesn't have the best balance or chin. He's been knocked down a few times before and he came close to being ko'd in his last fight. But then Haye doesn't have a great chin either. He's also been knocked down a few times. Fury needs to stick with the jab and move away from Haye's right hand. If he tries to lean on Haye like he sometimes does with opponents then he's going to get clipped on the way in. He needs to follow Klitchko's example and box smart. Keep a fast pace and make it awkward for him. Haye needs to duck and roll. Slip that big jab of Fury's. If he's patient then the moment will come where Fury sticks his big chin in the air. Then Haye just needs to land one sweet shot and it's lights out. But the key is getting past that jab. Shouldn't be too hard for an experienced fighter like Haye. I predict Haye wins in the third round by ko with a big right hook.
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*Copy_Ninja*	Sep 21 2013, 01:43 PM Post #2
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+ Pelador	Sep 21 2013, 01:57 PM Post #3
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Yeah I found out earlier. I hope that it heals up quick so that they can have the fight rearranged before the year is finished. If not then I'd be happy to see Fury fight just about anyone, even if it's just some old bum. As a boxer, you can't train like he has and get nothing at the end of it. He needs a fight.
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+ miguelnuva	Sep 23 2013, 03:22 AM Post #4
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	So how does everyone else feel about the Hopskins-Mayweather rumors?
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Revious83	Nov 14 2013, 11:44 AM Post #5
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #8,565 Joined: November 15, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga none	miguelnuva Sep 23 2013, 03:22 AM So how does everyone else feel about the Hopskins-Mayweather rumors? I think it's a big mismatch, Mayweather wouldn't stand a chance against Hopkins. The thing is, both are master boxer, but Hopkins is too big for Mayweather, he would have problems with the bigger mans reach, plus Hopkins is so skilled he won' t allow Mayweather to counter him and if Mayweather can't counter, he loses.



Revious83	Nov 14 2013, 11:52 AM Post #6
Posts: 355 Group: Member Member #8,565 Joined: November 15, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga none	Did anybody hear the sad news about Heavyweight prospect Magomed Abdulsalamov. After a very brutal fight against another prospect called Mike Perez, he suffered face and head injuries, the worst of them was a Blood clot in his Brain. So the Doctor's had to put him in an Artificially induced Coma in which he has been for over a week.



+ Pelador	Nov 14 2013, 12:33 PM Post #7
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Yeah I heard about that. These incidents would happen a lot less if boxers didn't fight so dehydrated. But there's so much pressure to make weight. I've never understood why boxers fight at a lower weight than what they are comfortable at. Yes there might be better competition or more money but is it worth your life?
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Ben	Nov 29 2013, 01:17 AM Post #8
Posts: 564 Group: Donator Member #10,230 Joined: September 20, 2013 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Pelador Nov 14 2013, 12:33 PM Yeah I heard about that. These incidents would happen a lot less if boxers didn't fight so dehydrated. But there's so much pressure to make weight. I've never understood why boxers fight at a lower weight than what they are comfortable at. Yes there might be better competition or more money but is it worth your life? That actually is kind of a new phenomenon, at least in amateur boxing. I can tell you from my experience that I never wanted to fight at anything other than heavyweight growing up. Cutting weight used to be more of a wrestling thing, there's a reason the saying in boxing is "punching above your weight", not under it. But at least until the past 10 years, heavyweight boxing was where it was at. It's also why Hollywood will make generic biopics like "Ali", but a movie like Raging Bull ends up as a low budget independent. Sure, you had guys like Sugar Ray, but in general it was all about heavyweight boxing up until Tyson went to prison anyway. Having said all that, is it a big thing now for younger boxers to cut weight? This is news to me if so, I can see why pros do it given the state of boxing these days.



+ Pelador	Nov 29 2013, 02:39 AM Post #9
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	It's nothing new actually. Although it took until the year 2000 before they brought in the second day weigh in because of injuries and deaths connected with losing too much water weight. I'm surprised at how long it took to bring in the new rules. It's probably saved dozens of lives and prolonged careers. From Wikipedia: In the controversial fight between Gatti vs Gamache, Gamache's handlers claimed Gatti had gained 19 pounds since the weigh-in the day before and thus had a large advantage over Gamache. This resulted in serious injuries to the smaller Gamache. After Gatti-Gamache, some boxing commissions started weighing boxers a second time. LKook at the different weight classes some of the classic boxers used to fight at and you'll see that this is nothing new. For instance Sugar Ray fought at welterweight for most of his career despite him being naturally a middleweight. Roberto Duran started at lightweight and moved all the way up to Super Middleweight. So yeah, cutting weight is nothing new. As for boxing nowadays. The spotlight seems to be around the welterweight and super middle weight divisions. There's Mayweather and Pacquiao at welterweight who are both huge stars. Then at Super Middle weight there's Andre Ward, Carl Froch and George Groves. Again big names. As for heavyweight, Britain has some really good prospects coming up. The best of whom I believe to be Anthony Joshua. Really, really talented boxer who could probably take a European title after just five fights. But they are being sensible with him and making absolutely sure he's ready. Some solid contenders at heavyweight right now like Tyson Fury, Alexander Povektin, Derek Chisora, Deontay Wilder and of course Vladimir Klitchko. Although the latter is only one or two years from retirement, he seems to be picking out some good fighters to round off his career. David Haye and Alexander Povetkin to name a few. But the future of the heavyweight division is definately Anthony Joshua. I think he's going to really dominate for a good few years.
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Ben	Nov 29 2013, 04:28 AM Post #10
Posts: 564 Group: Donator Member #10,230 Joined: September 20, 2013 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Pelador Nov 29 2013, 02:39 AM It's nothing new actually. Although it took until the year 2000 before they brought in the second day weigh in because of injuries and deaths connected with losing too much water weight. I'm surprised at how long it took to bring in the new rules. It's probably saved dozens of lives and prolonged careers. From Wikipedia: In the controversial fight between Gatti vs Gamache, Gamache's handlers claimed Gatti had gained 19 pounds since the weigh-in the day before and thus had a large advantage over Gamache. This resulted in serious injuries to the smaller Gamache. After Gatti-Gamache, some boxing commissions started weighing boxers a second time. LKook at the different weight classes some of the classic boxers used to fight at and you'll see that this is nothing new. For instance Sugar Ray fought at welterweight for most of his career despite him being naturally a middleweight. Roberto Duran started at lightweight and moved all the way up to Super Middleweight. So yeah, cutting weight is nothing new. As for boxing nowadays. The spotlight seems to be around the welterweight and super middle weight divisions. There's Mayweather and Pacquiao at welterweight who are both huge stars. Then at Super Middle weight there's Andre Ward, Carl Froch and George Groves. Again big names. As for heavyweight, Britain has some really good prospects coming up. The best of whom I believe to be Anthony Joshua. Really, really talented boxer who could probably take a European title after just five fights. But they are being sensible with him and making absolutely sure he's ready. Some solid contenders at heavyweight right now like Tyson Fury, Alexander Povektin, Derek Chisora, Deontay Wilder and of course Vladimir Klitchko. Although the latter is only one or two years from retirement, he seems to be picking out some good fighters to round off his career. David Haye and Alexander Povetkin to name a few. But the future of the heavyweight division is definately Anthony Joshua. I think he's going to really dominate for a good few years. I think what I was trying to say is that what seems new to me (maybe I'm wrong) is guys who could fight at heavyweight choosing not to. I'm not the aficionado you are, but I just find it fascinating that the class has lost so much prestige that people aren't aspiring to it anymore. I'm not that old, only 26, but even when I was starting out with youth boxing in the 90's everyone wanted to be like Mike Tyson, not De La Hoya. The idea that a kid coming up would choose to fight at anything less than heavyweight just seems crazy to me. Even a guy like De La Hoya kept going up in weight during his prime, not down, going down always seemed like something a washed up/cheap fighter would do to me. I was really talking more about youth/high school boxing than pro fights, I realize at the end of the day the pros will do what they have to for the cash. As far as Gatti goes though, I understand a guy moving around in some of the lower weight classes, but who knows what the truth was with that Gamache fight. Either way, I'll always love the guy for his three fights with Micky Ward.



+ Pelador	Nov 30 2013, 12:10 AM Post #11
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Most people's natural weight is between Welterweight and super Middleweight. The classier boxers have always fought at those weights. They were over shadowed by the heavyweights of the 70s and 80s even though those fights weren't as entertaining. So it's not that heavyweight boxing has declined. It's that more attention is now focused on where it should be.
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