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Dad beats his daughter's molester to death
Topic Started: Sep 17 2013, 09:56 AM (1,641 Views)
UncleGoten
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You should never really resort to violence ,and im not a violent person but in a situation like this i would be blinded by rage and do exactly the same thing.
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If they had found him guilty, I woulda been pretty mad about it. If someone is even trying to rob your house, you should be allowed to kill them in my opinion. If you are committing any crime, you deserve zero protection, and you deserve anything that happens to you. Of course torturing would be not what I am getting at, but I mean beaten until you are unconcious or fattally shot.

@unclegoten, if you saw someone in your house and he had a gun, you would beat him until he is unconcious if you could. You might even shoot him if you had a gun as well.
Edited by Master Gohan, Sep 17 2013, 09:31 PM.
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I am guilty sorry everyone. RIP Emile Griffith. Jeremy Kyle is a prick. go make sumin of urself

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Sep 17 2013, 09:30 PM
If they had found him guilty, I woulda been pretty mad about it. If someone is even trying to rob your house, you should be allowed to kill them in my opinion. If you are committing any crime, you deserve zero protection, and you deserve anything that happens to you. Of course torturing would be not what I am getting at, but I mean beaten until you are unconcious or fattally shot.

@unclegoten, if you saw someone in your house and he had a gun, you would beat him until he is unconcious if you could. You might even shoot him if you had a gun as well.
So your possessions are more important than a human life? If you're going to stand by and allow society to so warped that (mostly young) people are led towards criminal acts then you have no right to kill someone for committing those crimes when you earlier on ignored your responsibility as a citizen of your society to make sure people are looked after.

And how about all the people that commit so-called "White Collar" crimes? I suppose they deserve to get away with their crimes? And should kids who bully other kids in school be beaten to death now too?

And I suppose it's okay to beat to death gay people in places where being gay is illegal too. Because the law is absolute and consistent across the world and always decided upon for the good of the general public? Right.
“Making weed illegal is a little bit paranoid, don’t you think? It’s like saying God made a mistake, you know what I mean? It’s like, you’ve got the whole world and Earth and all its holy creations, right? And God is like, Hmm, lookit, my whole world in all its holy ways, and he’s like, Oh-my-me-oh-sh**, I left weed in here. Yeah right, I left weed in here. Oh, shouldn’t have smoked that joint on the third day.”
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Mr. Gohan
Sep 17 2013, 09:30 PM
If they had found him guilty, I woulda been pretty mad about it. If someone is even trying to rob your house, you should be allowed to kill them in my opinion. If you are committing any crime, you deserve zero protection, and you deserve anything that happens to you. Of course torturing would be not what I am getting at, but I mean beaten until you are unconcious or fattally shot.

@unclegoten, if you saw someone in your house and he had a gun, you would beat him until he is unconcious if you could. You might even shoot him if you had a gun as well.
Yeah unless you were trained to take someone down without killing them, why shouldn't you go for it?

They're not going to extend you the same courtesy, they are selfish and weak and won't want to be caught, if they have a gun or any other weapon then it's because they probably don't have any qualms with killing someone who catches them.

Someone trying to be gentle in a fight is going to lose to someone in for the kill, unless you're talking Bruce Lee vs the village idiot.
Protecting yourself and your family matters way more than this a***** life in that situation, imo.

OT, I fully support that, the guy probably would have only got like 10 years in jail unless he was badly behaved and who's to say he wouldn't try again or go after other children, that's the kind of eventuality that would cross my mind, f*** ever seeing him near my daughter again.
What was he supposed to do? "Hey, stop it please. Now wait there while I phone the police"
Sometimes, violence is the best solution.
I doubt the guy was about to go down for being a paedophile he would have attacked the father and probably killed him, who knows what he'd do to the girl then.
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Sep 17 2013, 10:00 PM
Mr. Gohan
Sep 17 2013, 09:30 PM
If they had found him guilty, I woulda been pretty mad about it. If someone is even trying to rob your house, you should be allowed to kill them in my opinion. If you are committing any crime, you deserve zero protection, and you deserve anything that happens to you. Of course torturing would be not what I am getting at, but I mean beaten until you are unconcious or fattally shot.

@unclegoten, if you saw someone in your house and he had a gun, you would beat him until he is unconcious if you could. You might even shoot him if you had a gun as well.
Yeah unless you were trained to take someone down without killing them, why shouldn't you go for it?

They're not going to extend you the same courtesy, they are selfish and weak and won't want to be caught, if they have a gun or any other weapon then it's because they probably don't have any qualms with killing someone who catches them.

Someone trying to be gentle in a fight is going to lose to someone in for the kill, unless you're talking Bruce Lee vs the village idiot.
Protecting yourself and your family matters way more than this a***** life in that situation, imo.

OT, I fully support that, the guy probably would have only got like 10 years in jail unless he was badly behaved and who's to say he wouldn't try again or go after other children, that's the kind of eventuality that would cross my mind, f*** ever seeing him near my daughter again.
What was he supposed to do? "Hey, stop it please. Now wait there while I phone the police"
Sometimes, violence is the best solution.
I doubt the guy was about to go down for being a paedophile he would have attacked the father and probably killed him, who knows what he'd do to the girl then.
Except that there's a big step up between being an intruder with a gun and just "committing any crime" or even "trying to rob your house".
“Making weed illegal is a little bit paranoid, don’t you think? It’s like saying God made a mistake, you know what I mean? It’s like, you’ve got the whole world and Earth and all its holy creations, right? And God is like, Hmm, lookit, my whole world in all its holy ways, and he’s like, Oh-my-me-oh-sh**, I left weed in here. Yeah right, I left weed in here. Oh, shouldn’t have smoked that joint on the third day.”
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Most places have laws which recognize the difference. For instance, in my state you have the right to kill an intruder in your home if you feel threatened. However, if at any point that intruder leaves your property or even turns to leave and you assault or kill them, then the crime is pinned on you. The most recent case around where I live involves a family owned convenience store which was robbed. The robber shot the elderly owner of the store and his son in turn shot and killed the intruder in the back. The son is currently doing jail time because even though he was defending his father, he did it outside of the law. Had he shot and killed the man while he was still within the store and a threat, it would be a different case entirely.

The case the OP mentioned is over a year old. The initial killing occurred some time in June of 2012 if I remember correctly. Flores was a 47 year old man caught in the molestation of a 5 year old girl. She was with her brother at the time Flores took her, and her brother was the one who alerted their father. Do I think that it was right of the father murdered Flores? No. Murder is never acceptable. But do I understand why his reaction was so strong? Yes. I understand it entirely.

The morality of the situation is bad either way. Two wrongs don't make a right. However, only one of the wrongs committed by the two men is recognized in the court of law.
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You can't blame the dad for beating the molester to death. If it were my daughter who just got molested, I would have done the same exact thing.
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And in this case he literally can't be blamed - the law says so.
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Just for the record, I don't condone killing everyone for all crimes. There are some crimes that should be punished,but not sentenced to death. Sometimes you have to look at the circumstances as to why someone is stealing or bullying.

In this instance, the father obviously acted out of instinct which is what most people would have done. I don't blame him for what he did. I just feel like in some instances it shouldn't be automatic as Gohan tried to point out. As mad as some of us will get, it shouldn't be set in stone.

What if someone was stealing because they had no food or medicine? It is one of those morality issues that has to be looked at from both sides. I didn't see why that issue was brought up either. This situation is completely separate from all those.

Overall, not every crime is the same.
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The offender deserved no less. And what's disgusting is that sexual offences seem to be committed on victims whose age just seems to be getting younger and younger. B******s.


It's absolutely deplorable when you think about the kind of scumbags we have in this world. They all deserve to live a slow, painful death.
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If they've already had a slow painful life that seems quite harsh (not talking about this case btw, just in general).
“Making weed illegal is a little bit paranoid, don’t you think? It’s like saying God made a mistake, you know what I mean? It’s like, you’ve got the whole world and Earth and all its holy creations, right? And God is like, Hmm, lookit, my whole world in all its holy ways, and he’s like, Oh-my-me-oh-sh**, I left weed in here. Yeah right, I left weed in here. Oh, shouldn’t have smoked that joint on the third day.”
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I would've choked the guy out

While staring in his eyes

Pure rage in mine
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I'd probably do it too. Personally I think the guy got what he deserved.
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I don't exactly agree that every crime deserves for someone to be beaten to death, that's just cruel.
In this case Flores obviously wasn't doing this because he needed to, no he did it because he wanted to and was a pedophile. Big difference since there is no good side to trying to rape/molest a 5 year old.
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Sep 18 2013, 01:21 AM
I would've choked the guy out

While staring in his eyes

Pure rage in mine
What if he grabbed your b***s and then transitioned into an armbar.

But yeh I wonder how the kid is doing? I mean idk how the molester was towards her (as in was he forceful?) but she had that sexual advantage-taking happen to her however that happened, and then I suppose witnessed her father beating somebody quite badly (unless the father was a boxer and just killed him accidentally with 1 punch like sometimes happens), which may have mean seeing a side to father she hadn't seen before (depending on how the father is on a day-to-day basis. Could be a generally violent and angry guy for all we know).
“Making weed illegal is a little bit paranoid, don’t you think? It’s like saying God made a mistake, you know what I mean? It’s like, you’ve got the whole world and Earth and all its holy creations, right? And God is like, Hmm, lookit, my whole world in all its holy ways, and he’s like, Oh-my-me-oh-sh**, I left weed in here. Yeah right, I left weed in here. Oh, shouldn’t have smoked that joint on the third day.”
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